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4.2.0-dev next?

Jim Jagielski
Now that we have AOO-4.1.7 out, what do people think about trying for another 4.2.0 "preview" release? Maybe a developers release or even a beta...?
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Re: 4.2.0-dev next?

Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 07:44:11 -0400
Jim Jagielski <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Now that we have AOO-4.1.7 out, what do people think about trying for another 4.2.0 "preview" release? Maybe a developers release or even a beta...?

I used an earlier A00-4.2.0 for daily use and it worked OK for my writing/editing.

I would encourage release of an A00-4.2.0 if only for psychological reasons - the numbering of LibreOffice versions is outpacing that of AOO, and progression to 4.2.0 would indicate continuing activity on the part of AOO.

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Re: 4.2.0-dev next?

Mechtilde Stehmann-2
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Hello

First we should try to fix the release blocker

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125129
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127731
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128094
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127783
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127774

We think Issue 127731 and 128094 have a similar reason.

Kind regards

Mechtilde

Am 24.10.19 um 13:44 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> Now that we have AOO-4.1.7 out, what do people think about trying for another 4.2.0 "preview" release? Maybe a developers release or even a beta...?
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RE: 4.2.0-dev next?

Jörg Schmidt-2
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> From: Rory O'Farrell [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2019 1:52 PM
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> Subject: Re: 4.2.0-dev next?
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> On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 07:44:11 -0400
> Jim Jagielski <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Now that we have AOO-4.1.7 out, what do people think about
> trying for another 4.2.0 "preview" release? Maybe a
> developers release or even a beta...?
>
> I used an earlier A00-4.2.0 for daily use and it worked OK
> for my writing/editing.
>
> I would encourage release of an A00-4.2.0 if only for
> psychological reasons - the numbering of LibreOffice versions
> is outpacing that of AOO,

That's true, but that's not a meaningful yardstick, because LO's release cycles
don't meet practical requirements.

> and progression to 4.2.0 would
> indicate continuing activity on the part of AOO.

+1



Jorg


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Re: 4.2.0-dev next?

Pedro Lino-3
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> Now that we have AOO-4.1.7 out, what do people think about trying for another 4.2.0 "preview" release? Maybe a developers release or even a beta...?

I believe it is about time for a Beta 1 build

One question: are there any 4.2.0 Linux binaries available more recent than those from the Buildbot (22nd May)?

Thanks,
Pedro

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Re: 4.2.0-dev next?

Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 18:19:48 +0100 (WEST)
Pedro Lino <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> > Now that we have AOO-4.1.7 out, what do people think about trying for another 4.2.0 "preview" release? Maybe a developers release or even a beta...?
>
> I believe it is about time for a Beta 1 build
>
> One question: are there any 4.2.0 Linux binaries available more recent than those from the Buildbot (22nd May)?
>
> Thanks,
> Pedro

I can't answer that, but the 4.2.0 version I used until changing to 4.1.7, for better compatibility with Forum users, was the May 22 version. I used the DEB 64, running on Xubuntu 18.04.02 and later .03.


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Re: 4.2.0-dev next?

Jim Jagielski
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I will kick-off a quick 4.2.0-dev Linux64 build...

> On Oct 24, 2019, at 1:19 PM, Pedro Lino <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> Now that we have AOO-4.1.7 out, what do people think about trying for another 4.2.0 "preview" release? Maybe a developers release or even a beta...?
>
> I believe it is about time for a Beta 1 build
>
> One question: are there any 4.2.0 Linux binaries available more recent than those from the Buildbot (22nd May)?
>
> Thanks,
> Pedro
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Pedro Lino-3
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Hi Rory
 
> I can't answer that, but the 4.2.0 version I used until changing to 4.1.7, for better compatibility with Forum users, was the May 22 version. I used the DEB 64, running on Xubuntu 18.04.02 and later .03.
>

I tested that build as well under Ubuntu 18.04.3 x64 but I get too many errors (compared to 4.1.7) so I'm hoping this was a bad one and that a more recent build will be better :)

Thanks!
Pedro

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Re: 4.2.0-dev next?

Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 19:40:49 +0100 (WEST)
Pedro Lino <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Rory
>  
> > I can't answer that, but the 4.2.0 version I used until changing to 4.1.7, for better compatibility with Forum users, was the May 22 version. I used the DEB 64, running on Xubuntu 18.04.02 and later .03.
> >
>
> I tested that build as well under Ubuntu 18.04.3 x64 but I get too many errors (compared to 4.1.7) so I'm hoping this was a bad one and that a more recent build will be better :)
>
> Thanks!
> Pedro

Writer worked correctly for me, generating new files and editing exiting files.

My Calc use is merely a simple 12 sheet file, with 31 lines on each sheet, and simple arithmetic, so that is not a valid test.

I was able to make and edit a 100 slide Impress file, complete with Notes, and later minimise it.  Insertion of video clips did not work, but I didn't need them.
 
I had some little instability with Impress, but tracked it down to LanguageTool, which I would turn off for Impress editing.

As soon as Jim has new builds I'll try out the DEB 64.

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Re: 4.2.0-dev next?

Jim Jagielski
New builds: http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/AOO420-test/

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Re: 4.2.0-dev next?

Marcus (OOo)
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Am 24.10.19 um 14:04 schrieb Mechtilde:
> First we should try to fix the release blocker
>
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125129
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127731
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128094
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127783
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127774
>
> We think Issue 127731 and 128094 have a similar reason.

I also think that we should fix these blockers and check for others,
before doing a test build for a wider audience. It would increase the
quality and therefore also the public acceptance.

Marcus



> Am 24.10.19 um 13:44 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> Now that we have AOO-4.1.7 out, what do people think about trying for another 4.2.0 "preview" release? Maybe a developers release or even a beta...?


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Re: 4.2.0-dev next?

Damjan Jovanovic
On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 1:00 AM Marcus <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Am 24.10.19 um 14:04 schrieb Mechtilde:
> > First we should try to fix the release blocker
> >
> > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125129
> > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127731
> > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128094
> > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127783
> > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127774
> >
> > We think Issue 127731 and 128094 have a similar reason.
>
> I also think that we should fix these blockers and check for others,
> before doing a test build for a wider audience. It would increase the
> quality and therefore also the public acceptance.
>
> +1
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Peter Kovacs-3
I think we should define that when the blockers are fixed we are fine for a beta. We  an still fix issues there.

I have collected over 20 issues on jira that focusing on crash, memory leaks and other fatal things.
Not to speak of our hideous hash tag issue.

Maybe we could create a debug build so we can better hunt issues. Maybe we could create comparable extended crash reports. It is easier to learn to collect data then to fix issues. And if we can distribute research work, maybe developers are faster fixing.

What do you think?

Am 25. Oktober 2019 04:21:13 MESZ schrieb Damjan Jovanovic <[hidden email]>:

>On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 1:00 AM Marcus <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Am 24.10.19 um 14:04 schrieb Mechtilde:
>> > First we should try to fix the release blocker
>> >
>> > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125129
>> > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127731
>> > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128094
>> > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127783
>> > https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127774
>> >
>> > We think Issue 127731 and 128094 have a similar reason.
>>
>> I also think that we should fix these blockers and check for others,
>> before doing a test build for a wider audience. It would increase the
>> quality and therefore also the public acceptance.
>>
>> +1
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Pedro Lino-3
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Thank you very much!

I'm already running it. This is a good one!

All the best,
Pedro


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Jim Jagielski
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All works for me...

> On Oct 25, 2019, at 2:28 AM, Peter Kovacs <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I think we should define that when the blockers are fixed we are fine for a beta. We  an still fix issues there.
>
> I have collected over 20 issues on jira that focusing on crash, memory leaks and other fatal things.
> Not to speak of our hideous hash tag issue.
>
> Maybe we could create a debug build so we can better hunt issues. Maybe we could create comparable extended crash reports. It is easier to learn to collect data then to fix issues. And if we can distribute research work, maybe developers are faster fixing.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Am 25. Oktober 2019 04:21:13 MESZ schrieb Damjan Jovanovic <[hidden email]>:
>> On Fri, Oct 25, 2019 at 1:00 AM Marcus <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 24.10.19 um 14:04 schrieb Mechtilde:
>>>> First we should try to fix the release blocker
>>>>
>>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125129
>>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127731
>>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=128094
>>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127783
>>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127774
>>>>
>>>> We think Issue 127731 and 128094 have a similar reason.
>>>
>>> I also think that we should fix these blockers and check for others,
>>> before doing a test build for a wider audience. It would increase the
>>> quality and therefore also the public acceptance.
>>>
>>> +1


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