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AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

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Hello list,
It seems that Open Symbol font is not up to date.
Read: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127110
martin_g provide a patched font in this thread:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772&p=360368#p360385
Is it possible to embed this for next build?

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Re: AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

Peter Kovacs-3
Jim, Matthias can you look into this? Imho it is a simple refresh of the
Font. (If we ship it.)

On 29.01.19 11:13, FR web forum wrote:

> Hello list,
> It seems that Open Symbol font is not up to date.
> Read: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127110
> martin_g provide a patched font in this thread:
> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772&p=360368#p360385
> Is it possible to embed this for next build?
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Re: AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

Matthias Seidel
I had a look at the patched font and it is based on an old version (1.7
?). At the moment we ship version 2.4.3.

A general overhaul of that font would be needed. Do we have some font
specialists in our PMC or the ASF?

Regards,

   Matthias


Am 30.01.19 um 22:28 schrieb Peter Kovacs:

> Jim, Matthias can you look into this? Imho it is a simple refresh of the
> Font. (If we ship it.)
>
> On 29.01.19 11:13, FR web forum wrote:
>> Hello list,
>> It seems that Open Symbol font is not up to date.
>> Read: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127110
>> martin_g provide a patched font in this thread:
>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772&p=360368#p360385
>> Is it possible to embed this for next build?
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Re: AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

Dave Fisher
Hi -

> On Jan 30, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I had a look at the patched font and it is based on an old version (1.7
> ?). At the moment we ship version 2.4.3.
>
> A general overhaul of that font would be needed. Do we have some font
> specialists in our PMC or the ASF?

I am very, very rusty. (About 15 years)  Point me towards some sources and I’ll see if I can help.

Regards,
Dave

>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
>
> Am 30.01.19 um 22:28 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>> Jim, Matthias can you look into this? Imho it is a simple refresh of the
>> Font. (If we ship it.)
>>
>> On 29.01.19 11:13, FR web forum wrote:
>>> Hello list,
>>> It seems that Open Symbol font is not up to date.
>>> Read: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127110
>>> martin_g provide a patched font in this thread:
>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772&p=360368#p360385
>>> Is it possible to embed this for next build?
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Re: AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

Matthias Seidel
Hi Dave,

Am 30.01.19 um 23:07 schrieb Dave Fisher:

> Hi -
>
>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I had a look at the patched font and it is based on an old version (1.7
>> ?). At the moment we ship version 2.4.3.
>>
>> A general overhaul of that font would be needed. Do we have some font
>> specialists in our PMC or the ASF?
> I am very, very rusty. (About 15 years)  Point me towards some sources and I’ll see if I can help.
What we have in our source is the TTF itself and an older SFD:

https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/

>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>> Regards,
>>
>>    Matthias
>>
>>
>> Am 30.01.19 um 22:28 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>> Jim, Matthias can you look into this? Imho it is a simple refresh of the
>>> Font. (If we ship it.)
>>>
>>> On 29.01.19 11:13, FR web forum wrote:
>>>> Hello list,
>>>> It seems that Open Symbol font is not up to date.
>>>> Read: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127110
>>>> martin_g provide a patched font in this thread:
>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772&p=360368#p360385
>>>> Is it possible to embed this for next build?
>>>>
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Re: AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

Dave Fisher
Hi -

> On Jan 30, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Am 30.01.19 um 23:07 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> Hi -
>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had a look at the patched font and it is based on an old version (1.7
>>> ?). At the moment we ship version 2.4.3.
>>>
>>> A general overhaul of that font would be needed. Do we have some font
>>> specialists in our PMC or the ASF?
>> I am very, very rusty. (About 15 years)  Point me towards some sources and I’ll see if I can help.
>
> What we have in our source is the TTF itself and an older SFD:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/ <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/>

I see. I did a quick look and comparison with FontBook on my Mac. They are definitely different. I am not even sure that the patched font from the Forum is encoded the same way as the sample shows different characters.

From the thread it looks like the patched font has misplaced the Greek Letters. Let me see if I can provide a version 2.5 of OpenSymbol that can find the updated square root and brackets while preserving the encoding.

I’ve used FontForge to play with Fonts, but I cannot get it to work on my current macOS. I do have a version of 10.7 which I will try later this week.

Regards,
Dave

>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>   Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 30.01.19 um 22:28 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>> Jim, Matthias can you look into this? Imho it is a simple refresh of the
>>>> Font. (If we ship it.)
>>>>
>>>> On 29.01.19 11:13, FR web forum wrote:
>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>> It seems that Open Symbol font is not up to date.
>>>>> Read: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127110
>>>>> martin_g provide a patched font in this thread:
>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772&p=360368#p360385
>>>>> Is it possible to embed this for next build?
>>>>>
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Re: AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

Matthias Seidel
Hi Dave,

Am 05.02.19 um 02:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:

> Hi -
>
>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Am 30.01.19 um 23:07 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I had a look at the patched font and it is based on an old version (1.7
>>>> ?). At the moment we ship version 2.4.3.
>>>>
>>>> A general overhaul of that font would be needed. Do we have some font
>>>> specialists in our PMC or the ASF?
>>> I am very, very rusty. (About 15 years)  Point me towards some sources and I’ll see if I can help.
>> What we have in our source is the TTF itself and an older SFD:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/ <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/>
> I see. I did a quick look and comparison with FontBook on my Mac. They are definitely different. I am not even sure that the patched font from the Forum is encoded the same way as the sample shows different characters.
>
> From the thread it looks like the patched font has misplaced the Greek Letters. Let me see if I can provide a version 2.5 of OpenSymbol that can find the updated square root and brackets while preserving the encoding.
Yes, the (square) root is the most visible character in Math, that looks
broken (at least on Windows).

Great that you have a look at it!

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> I’ve used FontForge to play with Fonts, but I cannot get it to work on my current macOS. I do have a version of 10.7 which I will try later this week.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>   Matthias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 30.01.19 um 22:28 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>>> Jim, Matthias can you look into this? Imho it is a simple refresh of the
>>>>> Font. (If we ship it.)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29.01.19 11:13, FR web forum wrote:
>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>> It seems that Open Symbol font is not up to date.
>>>>>> Read: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127110
>>>>>> martin_g provide a patched font in this thread:
>>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772&p=360368#p360385
>>>>>> Is it possible to embed this for next build?
>>>>>>
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Re: AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

Matthias Seidel
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Hi Dave,

Can you also have a look at "Weierstraß-p" (Unicode U+2118).
In Writer and Math (only Windows, not Linux) the descender appears
slightly truncated.

Also, on Windows 10 OpenSymbol seems to be substituted by some MS font.
Windows 7 still shows OpenSymbol.
That might be a bug in Windows 10 but maybe we can get around this somehow.

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 05.02.19 um 02:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:

> Hi -
>
>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Am 30.01.19 um 23:07 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I had a look at the patched font and it is based on an old version (1.7
>>>> ?). At the moment we ship version 2.4.3.
>>>>
>>>> A general overhaul of that font would be needed. Do we have some font
>>>> specialists in our PMC or the ASF?
>>> I am very, very rusty. (About 15 years)  Point me towards some sources and I’ll see if I can help.
>> What we have in our source is the TTF itself and an older SFD:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/ <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/>
> I see. I did a quick look and comparison with FontBook on my Mac. They are definitely different. I am not even sure that the patched font from the Forum is encoded the same way as the sample shows different characters.
>
> From the thread it looks like the patched font has misplaced the Greek Letters. Let me see if I can provide a version 2.5 of OpenSymbol that can find the updated square root and brackets while preserving the encoding.
>
> I’ve used FontForge to play with Fonts, but I cannot get it to work on my current macOS. I do have a version of 10.7 which I will try later this week.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>   Matthias
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 30.01.19 um 22:28 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>>> Jim, Matthias can you look into this? Imho it is a simple refresh of the
>>>>> Font. (If we ship it.)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 29.01.19 11:13, FR web forum wrote:
>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>> It seems that Open Symbol font is not up to date.
>>>>>> Read: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127110
>>>>>> martin_g provide a patched font in this thread:
>>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772&p=360368#p360385
>>>>>> Is it possible to embed this for next build?
>>>>>>
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Re: AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

Matthias Seidel
Hi all,

Bumping this thread up again.

With Windows 7 EOL more and more people will move to Windows 10 and see
the problems with our OpenSymbol font.

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 05.03.19 um 11:23 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

> Hi Dave,
>
> Can you also have a look at "Weierstraß-p" (Unicode U+2118).
> In Writer and Math (only Windows, not Linux) the descender appears
> slightly truncated.
>
> Also, on Windows 10 OpenSymbol seems to be substituted by some MS font.
> Windows 7 still shows OpenSymbol.
> That might be a bug in Windows 10 but maybe we can get around this somehow.
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
> Am 05.02.19 um 02:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> Hi -
>>
>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> Am 30.01.19 um 23:07 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>> Hi -
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I had a look at the patched font and it is based on an old version (1.7
>>>>> ?). At the moment we ship version 2.4.3.
>>>>>
>>>>> A general overhaul of that font would be needed. Do we have some font
>>>>> specialists in our PMC or the ASF?
>>>> I am very, very rusty. (About 15 years)  Point me towards some sources and I’ll see if I can help.
>>> What we have in our source is the TTF itself and an older SFD:
>>>
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/ <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/>
>> I see. I did a quick look and comparison with FontBook on my Mac. They are definitely different. I am not even sure that the patched font from the Forum is encoded the same way as the sample shows different characters.
>>
>> From the thread it looks like the patched font has misplaced the Greek Letters. Let me see if I can provide a version 2.5 of OpenSymbol that can find the updated square root and brackets while preserving the encoding.
>>
>> I’ve used FontForge to play with Fonts, but I cannot get it to work on my current macOS. I do have a version of 10.7 which I will try later this week.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>   Matthias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 30.01.19 um 22:28 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>>>> Jim, Matthias can you look into this? Imho it is a simple refresh of the
>>>>>> Font. (If we ship it.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 29.01.19 11:13, FR web forum wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>>> It seems that Open Symbol font is not up to date.
>>>>>>> Read: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127110
>>>>>>> martin_g provide a patched font in this thread:
>>>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772&p=360368#p360385
>>>>>>> Is it possible to embed this for next build?
>>>>>>>
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Re: AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

Marcus (OOo)
Am 17.01.20 um 16:56 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Bumping this thread up again.
>
> With Windows 7 EOL more and more people will move to Windows 10 and see
> the problems with our OpenSymbol font.

OK, what do we need to do here?

Thanks

Marcus



> Am 05.03.19 um 11:23 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Can you also have a look at "Weierstraß-p" (Unicode U+2118).
>> In Writer and Math (only Windows, not Linux) the descender appears
>> slightly truncated.
>>
>> Also, on Windows 10 OpenSymbol seems to be substituted by some MS font.
>> Windows 7 still shows OpenSymbol.
>> That might be a bug in Windows 10 but maybe we can get around this somehow.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>     Matthias
>>
>> Am 05.02.19 um 02:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>
>>>> Am 30.01.19 um 23:07 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I had a look at the patched font and it is based on an old version (1.7
>>>>>> ?). At the moment we ship version 2.4.3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A general overhaul of that font would be needed. Do we have some font
>>>>>> specialists in our PMC or the ASF?
>>>>> I am very, very rusty. (About 15 years)  Point me towards some sources and I’ll see if I can help.
>>>> What we have in our source is the TTF itself and an older SFD:
>>>>
>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/ <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/>
>>> I see. I did a quick look and comparison with FontBook on my Mac. They are definitely different. I am not even sure that the patched font from the Forum is encoded the same way as the sample shows different characters.
>>>
>>>  From the thread it looks like the patched font has misplaced the Greek Letters. Let me see if I can provide a version 2.5 of OpenSymbol that can find the updated square root and brackets while preserving the encoding.
>>>
>>> I’ve used FontForge to play with Fonts, but I cannot get it to work on my current macOS. I do have a version of 10.7 which I will try later this week.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Matthias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 30.01.19 um 22:28 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>>>>> Jim, Matthias can you look into this? Imho it is a simple refresh of the
>>>>>>> Font. (If we ship it.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 29.01.19 11:13, FR web forum wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>>>> It seems that Open Symbol font is not up to date.
>>>>>>>> Read: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127110
>>>>>>>> martin_g provide a patched font in this thread:
>>>>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772&p=360368#p360385
>>>>>>>> Is it possible to embed this for next build?


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Re: AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

Matthias Seidel
Hi Marcus,

Am 19.01.20 um 10:02 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 17.01.20 um 16:56 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Bumping this thread up again.
>>
>> With Windows 7 EOL more and more people will move to Windows 10 and see
>> the problems with our OpenSymbol font.
>
> OK, what do we need to do here?

What we needed to do a year before... ;-)
Find someone knowledgeable who can have a look into the font.

I already extracted the sdf file from our current font:
https://github.com/apache/openoffice/tree/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/OpenSymbol%202.4.3

Something must have changed with Window 8 upwards, that causes
OpenSymbol 2.4.3 to be rejected and substituted by Segoe UI(?).

BTW: This is also visible in Impress [1].

Regards,

   Matthias

[1] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127983

>
> Thanks
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> Am 05.03.19 um 11:23 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> Can you also have a look at "Weierstraß-p" (Unicode U+2118).
>>> In Writer and Math (only Windows, not Linux) the descender appears
>>> slightly truncated.
>>>
>>> Also, on Windows 10 OpenSymbol seems to be substituted by some MS font.
>>> Windows 7 still shows OpenSymbol.
>>> That might be a bug in Windows 10 but maybe we can get around this
>>> somehow.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>     Matthias
>>>
>>> Am 05.02.19 um 02:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>> Hi -
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 30.01.19 um 23:07 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had a look at the patched font and it is based on an old
>>>>>>> version (1.7
>>>>>>> ?). At the moment we ship version 2.4.3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A general overhaul of that font would be needed. Do we have some
>>>>>>> font
>>>>>>> specialists in our PMC or the ASF?
>>>>>> I am very, very rusty. (About 15 years)  Point me towards some
>>>>>> sources and I’ll see if I can help.
>>>>> What we have in our source is the TTF itself and an older SFD:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/
>>>>> <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/>
>>>>>
>>>> I see. I did a quick look and comparison with FontBook on my Mac.
>>>> They are definitely different. I am not even sure that the patched
>>>> font from the Forum is encoded the same way as the sample shows
>>>> different characters.
>>>>
>>>>  From the thread it looks like the patched font has misplaced the
>>>> Greek Letters. Let me see if I can provide a version 2.5 of
>>>> OpenSymbol that can find the updated square root and brackets while
>>>> preserving the encoding.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve used FontForge to play with Fonts, but I cannot get it to work
>>>> on my current macOS. I do have a version of 10.7 which I will try
>>>> later this week.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Matthias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 30.01.19 um 22:28 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>>>>>> Jim, Matthias can you look into this? Imho it is a simple
>>>>>>>> refresh of the
>>>>>>>> Font. (If we ship it.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 29.01.19 11:13, FR web forum wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>>>>> It seems that Open Symbol font is not up to date.
>>>>>>>>> Read: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127110
>>>>>>>>> martin_g provide a patched font in this thread:
>>>>>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772&p=360368#p360385
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to embed this for next build?
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Re: AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

Matthias Seidel
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Hi Marcus,

Am 19.01.20 um 10:02 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 17.01.20 um 16:56 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Bumping this thread up again.
>>
>> With Windows 7 EOL more and more people will move to Windows 10 and see
>> the problems with our OpenSymbol font.
>
> OK, what do we need to do here?

A fixed font would also be perfect for AOO 4.1.8...

I am trying to get started with FontForge but that needs more knowledge
than I have at the moment.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Thanks
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> Am 05.03.19 um 11:23 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> Can you also have a look at "Weierstraß-p" (Unicode U+2118).
>>> In Writer and Math (only Windows, not Linux) the descender appears
>>> slightly truncated.
>>>
>>> Also, on Windows 10 OpenSymbol seems to be substituted by some MS font.
>>> Windows 7 still shows OpenSymbol.
>>> That might be a bug in Windows 10 but maybe we can get around this
>>> somehow.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>     Matthias
>>>
>>> Am 05.02.19 um 02:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>> Hi -
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 30.01.19 um 23:07 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had a look at the patched font and it is based on an old
>>>>>>> version (1.7
>>>>>>> ?). At the moment we ship version 2.4.3.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A general overhaul of that font would be needed. Do we have some
>>>>>>> font
>>>>>>> specialists in our PMC or the ASF?
>>>>>> I am very, very rusty. (About 15 years)  Point me towards some
>>>>>> sources and I’ll see if I can help.
>>>>> What we have in our source is the TTF itself and an older SFD:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/
>>>>> <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/>
>>>>>
>>>> I see. I did a quick look and comparison with FontBook on my Mac.
>>>> They are definitely different. I am not even sure that the patched
>>>> font from the Forum is encoded the same way as the sample shows
>>>> different characters.
>>>>
>>>>  From the thread it looks like the patched font has misplaced the
>>>> Greek Letters. Let me see if I can provide a version 2.5 of
>>>> OpenSymbol that can find the updated square root and brackets while
>>>> preserving the encoding.
>>>>
>>>> I’ve used FontForge to play with Fonts, but I cannot get it to work
>>>> on my current macOS. I do have a version of 10.7 which I will try
>>>> later this week.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Matthias
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 30.01.19 um 22:28 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>>>>>> Jim, Matthias can you look into this? Imho it is a simple
>>>>>>>> refresh of the
>>>>>>>> Font. (If we ship it.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 29.01.19 11:13, FR web forum wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>>>>> It seems that Open Symbol font is not up to date.
>>>>>>>>> Read: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127110
>>>>>>>>> martin_g provide a patched font in this thread:
>>>>>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772&p=360368#p360385
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to embed this for next build?
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Re: AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

Marcus (OOo)
Am 23.01.20 um 13:15 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

> Am 19.01.20 um 10:02 schrieb Marcus:
>> Am 17.01.20 um 16:56 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Bumping this thread up again.
>>>
>>> With Windows 7 EOL more and more people will move to Windows 10 and see
>>> the problems with our OpenSymbol font.
>>
>> OK, what do we need to do here?
>
> A fixed font would also be perfect for AOO 4.1.8...
>
> I am trying to get started with FontForge but that needs more knowledge
> than I have at the moment.

I've no idea about how font are working. Wasn't there a helpful user
with a fixed font or similar in the forums?

Marcus



>>> Am 05.03.19 um 11:23 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>
>>>> Can you also have a look at "Weierstraß-p" (Unicode U+2118).
>>>> In Writer and Math (only Windows, not Linux) the descender appears
>>>> slightly truncated.
>>>>
>>>> Also, on Windows 10 OpenSymbol seems to be substituted by some MS font.
>>>> Windows 7 still shows OpenSymbol.
>>>> That might be a bug in Windows 10 but maybe we can get around this
>>>> somehow.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>      Matthias
>>>>
>>>> Am 05.02.19 um 02:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 30.01.19 um 23:07 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I had a look at the patched font and it is based on an old
>>>>>>>> version (1.7
>>>>>>>> ?). At the moment we ship version 2.4.3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A general overhaul of that font would be needed. Do we have some
>>>>>>>> font
>>>>>>>> specialists in our PMC or the ASF?
>>>>>>> I am very, very rusty. (About 15 years)  Point me towards some
>>>>>>> sources and I’ll see if I can help.
>>>>>> What we have in our source is the TTF itself and an older SFD:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/
>>>>>> <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I see. I did a quick look and comparison with FontBook on my Mac.
>>>>> They are definitely different. I am not even sure that the patched
>>>>> font from the Forum is encoded the same way as the sample shows
>>>>> different characters.
>>>>>
>>>>>   From the thread it looks like the patched font has misplaced the
>>>>> Greek Letters. Let me see if I can provide a version 2.5 of
>>>>> OpenSymbol that can find the updated square root and brackets while
>>>>> preserving the encoding.
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ve used FontForge to play with Fonts, but I cannot get it to work
>>>>> on my current macOS. I do have a version of 10.7 which I will try
>>>>> later this week.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Matthias
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 30.01.19 um 22:28 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>>>>>>> Jim, Matthias can you look into this? Imho it is a simple
>>>>>>>>> refresh of the
>>>>>>>>> Font. (If we ship it.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 29.01.19 11:13, FR web forum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>>>>>> It seems that Open Symbol font is not up to date.
>>>>>>>>>> Read: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127110
>>>>>>>>>> martin_g provide a patched font in this thread:
>>>>>>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772&p=360368#p360385
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to embed this for next build?


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Re: AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

Matthias Seidel
Hi Marcus,

Am 25.01.20 um 00:41 schrieb Marcus:

> Am 23.01.20 um 13:15 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> Am 19.01.20 um 10:02 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Am 17.01.20 um 16:56 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Bumping this thread up again.
>>>>
>>>> With Windows 7 EOL more and more people will move to Windows 10 and
>>>> see
>>>> the problems with our OpenSymbol font.
>>>
>>> OK, what do we need to do here?
>>
>> A fixed font would also be perfect for AOO 4.1.8...
>>
>> I am trying to get started with FontForge but that needs more knowledge
>> than I have at the moment.
>
> I've no idea about how font are working. Wasn't there a helpful user
> with a fixed font or similar in the forums?
Yes, that was an older version of OpenSymbol "hacked" as a workaround.

But I fear that he gave up after all these years...

Matthias

>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>>>> Am 05.03.19 um 11:23 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you also have a look at "Weierstraß-p" (Unicode U+2118).
>>>>> In Writer and Math (only Windows, not Linux) the descender appears
>>>>> slightly truncated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, on Windows 10 OpenSymbol seems to be substituted by some MS
>>>>> font.
>>>>> Windows 7 still shows OpenSymbol.
>>>>> That might be a bug in Windows 10 but maybe we can get around this
>>>>> somehow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>      Matthias
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 05.02.19 um 02:53 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 2:32 PM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 30.01.19 um 23:07 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2019, at 1:36 PM, Matthias Seidel
>>>>>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had a look at the patched font and it is based on an old
>>>>>>>>> version (1.7
>>>>>>>>> ?). At the moment we ship version 2.4.3.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A general overhaul of that font would be needed. Do we have some
>>>>>>>>> font
>>>>>>>>> specialists in our PMC or the ASF?
>>>>>>>> I am very, very rusty. (About 15 years)  Point me towards some
>>>>>>>> sources and I’ll see if I can help.
>>>>>>> What we have in our source is the TTF itself and an older SFD:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/extras/source/truetype/symbol/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see. I did a quick look and comparison with FontBook on my Mac.
>>>>>> They are definitely different. I am not even sure that the patched
>>>>>> font from the Forum is encoded the same way as the sample shows
>>>>>> different characters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   From the thread it looks like the patched font has misplaced the
>>>>>> Greek Letters. Let me see if I can provide a version 2.5 of
>>>>>> OpenSymbol that can find the updated square root and brackets while
>>>>>> preserving the encoding.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ve used FontForge to play with Fonts, but I cannot get it to work
>>>>>> on my current macOS. I do have a version of 10.7 which I will try
>>>>>> later this week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Matthias
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 30.01.19 um 22:28 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
>>>>>>>>>> Jim, Matthias can you look into this? Imho it is a simple
>>>>>>>>>> refresh of the
>>>>>>>>>> Font. (If we ship it.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 29.01.19 11:13, FR web forum wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>>>>>>> It seems that Open Symbol font is not up to date.
>>>>>>>>>>> Read: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127110
>>>>>>>>>>> martin_g provide a patched font in this thread:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772&p=360368#p360385
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is it possible to embed this for next build?
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Re: AOO 4.2 and OpenSymbol font

Hagar Delest-2
Le 25/01/2020 à 00:52, Matthias Seidel a écrit :

> Hi Marcus,
>
> Am 25.01.20 um 00:41 schrieb Marcus:
>> I've no idea about how font are working. Wasn't there a helpful user
>> with a fixed font or similar in the forums?
> Yes, that was an older version of OpenSymbol "hacked" as a workaround.
>
> But I fear that he gave up after all these years...
>
> Matthias

I think this is it:
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=67772#p381378

With links to the 2 bug reports (just for the record):
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125982
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=124203

Hagar

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