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tolleson
Just wanted to bring your attention an error on the OpenOffice web site.

The error is on this page...
https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html

The error is under the heading, "A multidisciplinary open source project"
and is the second item in the list of people that your organization is
looking for.

The text at issue now reads...
• Write or existing documentation, also with technical topics

I would suggest using one of the following...

• Write on existing documentation and technical topics
Or
• Rewrite existing documentation and technical topics

Or my personal favorite...
• Improve existing documentation and technical topics

You guys have a great product and I hope this helps in a small way,

DL Tolleson

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Re: Error on your web site

Marcus (OOo)
Am 29.03.2017 um 16:24 schrieb [hidden email]:

> Just wanted to bring your attention an error on the OpenOffice web site.
>
> The error is on this page...
> https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html
>
> The error is under the heading, "A multidisciplinary open source project"
> and is the second item in the list of people that your organization is
> looking for.
>
> The text at issue now reads...
> • Write or existing documentation, also with technical topics
>
> I would suggest using one of the following...
>
> • Write on existing documentation and technical topics
> Or
> • Rewrite existing documentation and technical topics
>
> Or my personal favorite...
> • Improve existing documentation and technical topics
>
> You guys have a great product and I hope this helps in a small way,

thanks for your hint. To keep the change minimal I've changed it in the
following way:

"Write new or improve existing documentation, also with technical topics"

Marcus


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tolleson
Marcus,

Thanks for letting me know.

I would point out, however, that something can be "improved" or it can be
"new," but marketing gurus not withstanding, it cannot be "new" AND
"improved."

"New "(not previously existing) documentation is the communication of
something not previously explained. "Improved" documentation more clearly
communicates something that has all ready been explained, but does not
communicate information about a new topic. (It is the idea being qualified
and thus using different or "new" words doesn't constitute something,
"new.")

I would also suggest that if one improves existing documentation, the act
of writing it is sufficiently implied to forego having to use the word
"write."

And finally, "also with technical topics" is a sentence fragment (think of
it as an incomplete thought). One possible correction: "Interpret technical
topics to write new, and improve existing, documentation." (That's assuming
both are being done; if not, drop whichever clause is unnecessary.)

But anyway, your attention to detail and promptness is a surprising change
to what one usually encounters.

Sincerely,

Tolleson

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 12:55 PM,
​> wrote:

> Am 29.03.2017 um 16:24 schrieb [hidden email]:
>
>> Just wanted to bring your attention an error on the OpenOffice web site.
>>
>> The error is on this page...
>> https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html
>>
>> The error is under the heading, "A multidisciplinary open source project"
>> and is the second item in the list of people that your organization is
>> looking for.
>>
>> The text at issue now reads...
>> • Write or existing documentation, also with technical topics
>>
>> I would suggest using one of the following...
>>
>> • Write on existing documentation and technical topics
>> Or
>> • Rewrite existing documentation and technical topics
>>
>> Or my personal favorite...
>> • Improve existing documentation and technical topics
>>
>> You guys have a great product and I hope this helps in a small way,
>>
>
> thanks for your hint. To keep the change minimal I've changed it in the
> following way:
>
> "Write new or improve existing documentation, also with technical topics"
>
> Marcus
>
>


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Re: Error on your web site

Brian Barker
At 13:58 29/03/2017 -0500, D L Tolleson wrote:
>I would point out, however, that something can be "improved" or it
>can be "new," but marketing gurus not withstanding, it cannot be
>"new" AND "improved."

I think it can, providing that you see this as a hendiadys.

If I say it's nice and warm today, I appear to be saying that it is
both nice and warm, but that's not so. You can see this since it is
not the same thing as saying that it is warm and nice. Instead the
expression means that it is nicely warm - warm to a nice extent. The
logical expression, "nicely warm", has two words in different parts
of speech creating a single idea: the adverb "nicely" modifying the
adjective "warm" to create the single idea of "nicely warm". But the
figure of speech hendiadys (= one through two) allows us to parade
the two words as if they were parallel adjectives making two ideas
but actually to mean the single idea.

If I work for the queen (I don't), I may get a "tied cottage", living
accommodation that comes with the post (not necessarily anything you
would call a cottage). This is provided by favour of the queen, and
the respectful word you have to use when referring to the queen's
favour is not "royal" (as you might imagine) but "gracious". So you'd
expect this to be called a "*gracious favour residence", but it
isn't: the proper term is "grace and favour residence". Again, a
hendiadys of two nouns representing what should strictly be an
adjective qualifying a noun.

"New and improved" is surely a hendiadys for "newly improved" - which
is very probably what is meant.

>I would also suggest that if one improves existing documentation,
>the act of writing it is sufficiently implied to forego having to
>use the word "write."

(Er, you mean "forgo", of course; "forego" means to precede.)

Brian Barker


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Re: Error on your web site

Marcus (OOo)
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Am 29.03.2017 um 20:58 schrieb [hidden email]:
> Thanks for letting me know.
>
> I would point out, [...]

I'm confused. Is this just a further comment on the sentence in
question? Or do you want to suggest a further change? If the later one,
then I've not understood what you want to express.

Maybe t's because I'm not a native speaker. ;-)

Thanks

Marcus



> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 12:55 PM,
> ​> wrote:
>
>     Am 29.03.2017 um 16:24 schrieb [hidden email]
>     <mailto:[hidden email]>:
>
>         Just wanted to bring your attention an error on the OpenOffice
>         web site.
>
>         The error is on this page...
>         https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html
>         <https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html>
>
>         The error is under the heading, "A multidisciplinary open source
>         project"
>         and is the second item in the list of people that your
>         organization is
>         looking for.
>
>         The text at issue now reads...
>         • Write or existing documentation, also with technical topics
>
>         I would suggest using one of the following...
>
>         • Write on existing documentation and technical topics
>         Or
>         • Rewrite existing documentation and technical topics
>
>         Or my personal favorite...
>         • Improve existing documentation and technical topics
>
>         You guys have a great product and I hope this helps in a small way,
>
>
>     thanks for your hint. To keep the change minimal I've changed it in
>     the following way:
>
>     "Write new or improve existing documentation, also with technical
>     topics"
>
>     Marcus


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Re: Error on your web site

tolleson
Marcus,

I'll try to to explain myself better.  It is a recommendation to further
change the same sentence.

This first part is fine...
"Write new or improve existing documentation"

But this second part doesn't make sense in English...
"...also with technical topics"

Here are two options to fix it (pick whichever one is correct):

Option 1:
"*Using technical topics, write new or improve existing documentation*"

(This means a person will look at technical things in order to write what
is needed)

*OR*

Option 2:
"*Write new or improve existing documentation and about technical topics*"

(In English usage, a person can write technical topics, but it more
acceptable to say that a person writes ABOUT technical topics. So, option 2
above means a person will write or improve documentation and will also
write ABOUT things that are technical.)

I hope that is easier to understand. If you have any questions, feel free
to ask. I am a writer.

Tolleson

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Marcus <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Am 29.03.2017 um 20:58 schrieb [hidden email]:
>
>> Thanks for letting me know.
>>
>> I would point out, [...]
>>
>
> I'm confused. Is this just a further comment on the sentence in question?
> Or do you want to suggest a further change? If the later one, then I've not
> understood what you want to express.
>
> Maybe t's because I'm not a native speaker. ;-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 12:55 PM,
>> ​> wrote:
>>
>>     Am 29.03.2017 um 16:24 schrieb [hidden email]
>>     <mailto:[hidden email]>:
>>
>>         Just wanted to bring your attention an error on the OpenOffice
>>         web site.
>>
>>         The error is on this page...
>>
>> ​​
>> ​​
>> https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html
>>         <https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html>
>>
>>         The error is under the heading, "A multidisciplinary open source
>>         project"
>>         and is the second item in the list of people that your
>>         organization is
>>         looking for.
>>
>>         The text at issue now reads...
>>         • Write or existing documentation, also with technical topics
>>
>>         I would suggest using one of the following...
>>
>>         • Write on existing documentation and technical topics
>>         Or
>>         • Rewrite existing documentation and technical topics
>>
>>         Or my personal favorite...
>>         • Improve existing documentation and technical topics
>>
>>         You guys have a great product and I hope this helps in a small
>> way,
>>
>>
>>     thanks for your hint. To keep the change minimal I've changed it in
>>     the following way:
>>
>>     "Write new or improve existing documentation, also with technical
>>     topics"
>>
>>     Marcus
>>
>
>


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Re: Error on your web site

Marcus (OOo)
Am 30.03.2017 um 00:39 schrieb [hidden email]:

> I'll try to to explain myself better.  It is a recommendation to further
> change the same sentence.
>
> This first part is fine...
> "Write new or improve existing documentation"
>
> But this second part doesn't make sense in English...
> "...also with technical topics"
>
> Here are two options to fix it (pick whichever one is correct):
>
> Option 1:
> "*Using technical topics, write new or improve existing documentation*"
>
> (This means a person will look at technical things in order to write what
> is needed)
>
> *OR*
>
> Option 2:
> "*Write new or improve existing documentation and about technical topics*"
>
> (In English usage, a person can write technical topics, but it more
> acceptable to say that a person writes ABOUT technical topics. So, option 2
> above means a person will write or improve documentation and will also
> write ABOUT things that are technical.)
>
> I hope that is easier to understand. If you have any questions, feel free
> to ask. I am a writer.

thanks for your corrections. I've changed the text.

Marcus



> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Marcus <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Am 29.03.2017 um 20:58 schrieb [hidden email]:
>>
>>> Thanks for letting me know.
>>>
>>> I would point out, [...]
>>>
>>
>> I'm confused. Is this just a further comment on the sentence in question?
>> Or do you want to suggest a further change? If the later one, then I've not
>> understood what you want to express.
>>
>> Maybe t's because I'm not a native speaker. ;-)
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 12:55 PM,
>>> ​> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Am 29.03.2017 um 16:24 schrieb [hidden email]
>>>     <mailto:[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>>         Just wanted to bring your attention an error on the OpenOffice
>>>         web site.
>>>
>>>         The error is on this page...
>>>
>>> ​​
>>> ​​
>>> https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html
>>>         <https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html>
>>>
>>>         The error is under the heading, "A multidisciplinary open source
>>>         project"
>>>         and is the second item in the list of people that your
>>>         organization is
>>>         looking for.
>>>
>>>         The text at issue now reads...
>>>         • Write or existing documentation, also with technical topics
>>>
>>>         I would suggest using one of the following...
>>>
>>>         • Write on existing documentation and technical topics
>>>         Or
>>>         • Rewrite existing documentation and technical topics
>>>
>>>         Or my personal favorite...
>>>         • Improve existing documentation and technical topics
>>>
>>>         You guys have a great product and I hope this helps in a small
>>> way,
>>>
>>>
>>>     thanks for your hint. To keep the change minimal I've changed it in
>>>     the following way:
>>>
>>>     "Write new or improve existing documentation, also with technical
>>>     topics"
>>>
>>>     Marcus


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