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ISO image of Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 ?

Matthias Seidel
Hi all, Pat? Don? Damjan?

Has anyone got an ISO image of "Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and
.NET Framework 3.5 SP1" ?

It is needed to build AOO on Windows. Support has ended and MS has
pulled it from their server.

The links in our Wiki are not working:
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10

This is a major problem now for developers who want to set up a new
building machine.

Unfortunately I have only downloaded the web installer...

Regards,

   Matthias



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Re: ISO image of Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 ?

Peter Kovacs-3
Maybe the One with .net 4 dies still Work?

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8442



Am 24. September 2018 20:12:34 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]>:

>Hi all, Pat? Don? Damjan?
>
>Has anyone got an ISO image of "Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and
>.NET Framework 3.5 SP1" ?
>
>It is needed to build AOO on Windows. Support has ended and MS has
>pulled it from their server.
>
>The links in our Wiki are not working:
>https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10
>
>This is a major problem now for developers who want to set up a new
>building machine.
>
>Unfortunately I have only downloaded the web installer...
>
>Regards,
>
>   Matthias

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Re: ISO image of Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 ?

Matthias Seidel
Hi Peter,

Am 24.09.2018 um 20:49 schrieb Peter kovacs:
> Maybe the One with .net 4 dies still Work?
>
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8442

Not according to our Wiki. That one contains MSVC 2010.
There are also other problems installing it on Win 10 because of .NET
Framework 4.

If I only had downloaded the ISO... :-(

Matthias

>
>
>
> Am 24. September 2018 20:12:34 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]>:
>> Hi all, Pat? Don? Damjan?
>>
>> Has anyone got an ISO image of "Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and
>> .NET Framework 3.5 SP1" ?
>>
>> It is needed to build AOO on Windows. Support has ended and MS has
>> pulled it from their server.
>>
>> The links in our Wiki are not working:
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10
>>
>> This is a major problem now for developers who want to set up a new
>> building machine.
>>
>> Unfortunately I have only downloaded the web installer...
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>    Matthias
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Re: ISO image of Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 ?

Peter Kovacs-2
I see the only alternative to distribute vms. Matthias do you have a Windows VM? Alternative would be asking infra.

Maybe porting to 2010 is not that hard?

All the best
Peter

Am 24. September 2018 20:53:41 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]>:

>Hi Peter,
>
>Am 24.09.2018 um 20:49 schrieb Peter kovacs:
>> Maybe the One with .net 4 dies still Work?
>>
>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8442
>
>Not according to our Wiki. That one contains MSVC 2010.
>There are also other problems installing it on Win 10 because of .NET
>Framework 4.
>
>If I only had downloaded the ISO... :-(
>
>Matthias
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 24. September 2018 20:12:34 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel
><[hidden email]>:
>>> Hi all, Pat? Don? Damjan?
>>>
>>> Has anyone got an ISO image of "Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7
>and
>>> .NET Framework 3.5 SP1" ?
>>>
>>> It is needed to build AOO on Windows. Support has ended and MS has
>>> pulled it from their server.
>>>
>>> The links in our Wiki are not working:
>>>
>https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10
>>>
>>> This is a major problem now for developers who want to set up a new
>>> building machine.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I have only downloaded the web installer...
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>    Matthias
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Matthias Seidel
Am 24.09.2018 um 23:56 schrieb Peter Kovacs:
> I see the only alternative to distribute vms. Matthias do you have a Windows VM? Alternative would be asking infra.

Infra has at least the SDK, they installed it on our Windows 10 buildbot
when I worked with them to get things going...

I have a VM (VirtualBox), but it is in German. I would need to set up a
new one including the SDK. ;-)

> Maybe porting to 2010 is not that hard?

Maybe...
George wants to have a look into that topic (not specifically MSVC
2010), but first he must have a working environment.

Regards,
   Matthias

>
> All the best
> Peter
>
> Am 24. September 2018 20:53:41 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]>:
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Am 24.09.2018 um 20:49 schrieb Peter kovacs:
>>> Maybe the One with .net 4 dies still Work?
>>>
>>> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8442
>> Not according to our Wiki. That one contains MSVC 2010.
>> There are also other problems installing it on Win 10 because of .NET
>> Framework 4.
>>
>> If I only had downloaded the ISO... :-(
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 24. September 2018 20:12:34 MESZ schrieb Matthias Seidel
>> <[hidden email]>:
>>>> Hi all, Pat? Don? Damjan?
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone got an ISO image of "Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7
>> and
>>>> .NET Framework 3.5 SP1" ?
>>>>
>>>> It is needed to build AOO on Windows. Support has ended and MS has
>>>> pulled it from their server.
>>>>
>>>> The links in our Wiki are not working:
>>>>
>> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7.2C_Windows_8.1.2C_Windows_10
>>>> This is a major problem now for developers who want to set up a new
>>>> building machine.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately I have only downloaded the web installer...
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>    Matthias
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Re: ISO image of Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 ?

Lee Fisher
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On 09/24/2018 11:12 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> [...] Support has ended and MS has pulled it from their server.
> [...]This is a major problem now for developers who want to
> set up a new building machine.[...]

Reliance on ancient/deprecated toolchain from a vendor -- who is known
for removing old versions of unsupported tools -- seems to be a major
problem.

Have you looked at the Windows dev VM that they've started in recent
months?

https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/downloads/virtual-machines

It is a VM with recent builds of OS + SDK + WDK + VisualStudio installed.

It is available in VirtualBox and VMware formats, not just Hyper-V.

Having the MS tools preinstalled may save time to AOO contributors.

It is a large download, about 16gig, perhaps too big for some
contributors to easily download??

The VM is trialware, expires in a few months, so you have to download a
new VM ever few months.

I wonder how long Microsoft will decide to support this dev VM? Maybe it
is too soon to start relying on it? :-(

If the goal is to only to use ancient, deprecated tools, not just the
latest available binaries from the vendor, then this VM won't help.

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Re: ISO image of Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 ?

Pedro Lino-3
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Hi Matthias


> On September 24, 2018 at 7:53 PM Matthias Seidel <[hidden email] mailto:[hidden email] > wrote:
>
>
>     Hi Peter,
>
>     Am 24.09.2018 um 20:49 schrieb Peter kovacs:
>
>         > > Maybe the One with .net 4 dies still Work?
> >
> >     >
>         > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8442
> >
> >     >     Not according to our Wiki. That one contains MSVC 2010.
>     There are also other problems installing it on Win 10 because of .NET
>     Framework 4.
>


According to the included Release Notes

http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=186826

"1.2 What Does the Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 4 Support?

· Operating Systems: You can install this SDK on and/or create applications for Windows 7, Server 2008 R2, Server 2008, XPSP3, Vista, and Windows Server 2003 R2.

· Platform architecture: you can install this SDK on and/or create applications for platform chipsets X86, X64, and IA64 (Itanium).

· .NET Framework: you can use the SDK resources to create applications that target .NET Framework versions 2.0, 3.0, 3.5, 4.

· Visual Studio: you can use the resources in this SDK with Visual Studio versions 2005, 2008, and 2010, including Express editions. (Not all features work with all versions of Visual Studio. For example, you can’t use the .NET 4 tools with Visual Studio 2008.)

· Setup/Install options: Win SDK v7.1 will be available through an ISO or a Web setup download and install experience. Web setup allows you to install selected components of the SDK without having to download the entire SDK. The DVD ISO setup allows you to download the entire SDK to install later, or share among different computers."


So you probably can get these new ISOs to work

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8442


Hope this helps,

Pedro
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Re: ISO image of Microsoft Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 ?

Matthias Seidel
Hi Pedro,

Am 25.09.2018 um 01:43 schrieb Pedro Lino:

> Hi Matthias
>
>
>> On September 24, 2018 at 7:53 PM Matthias Seidel <[hidden email] mailto:[hidden email] > wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Hi Peter,
>>
>>     Am 24.09.2018 um 20:49 schrieb Peter kovacs:
>>
>>         > > Maybe the One with .net 4 dies still Work?
>>>     >
>>         > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8442
>>>     >     Not according to our Wiki. That one contains MSVC 2010.
>>     There are also other problems installing it on Win 10 because of .NET
>>     Framework 4.
>>
>
> According to the included Release Notes
>
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=186826
>
> "1.2 What Does the Windows SDK for Windows 7 and .NET Framework 4 Support?
>
> · Operating Systems: You can install this SDK on and/or create applications for Windows 7, Server 2008 R2, Server 2008, XPSP3, Vista, and Windows Server 2003 R2.
>
> · Platform architecture: you can install this SDK on and/or create applications for platform chipsets X86, X64, and IA64 (Itanium).
>
> · .NET Framework: you can use the SDK resources to create applications that target .NET Framework versions 2.0, 3.0, 3.5, 4.
>
> · Visual Studio: you can use the resources in this SDK with Visual Studio versions 2005, 2008, and 2010, including Express editions. (Not all features work with all versions of Visual Studio. For example, you can’t use the .NET 4 tools with Visual Studio 2008.)
>
> · Setup/Install options: Win SDK v7.1 will be available through an ISO or a Web setup download and install experience. Web setup allows you to install selected components of the SDK without having to download the entire SDK. The DVD ISO setup allows you to download the entire SDK to install later, or share among different computers."
>
>
> So you probably can get these new ISOs to work
You can try yourself, I already did for two days now... ;-)

There are enough problems to get it even installed on Windows 10.
Apart from that, some of our code would have to be changed for the
compiler (MSVC 2010).

Fact is, at the moment we still need the old SDK. (I have found a copy
of it already...)

One of our next steps must be the switch to a newer compiler.

Regards,
   Matthias

>
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=8442
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Pedro
>



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