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Vince@Gmail
Hello Group:

My Windows 10 Home is used on a 64-bit architecture DELL desktop.

I recently downloaded and installed Libre Office software.  So, now I
have both packages:

 1. Apache Open Office: AOO415m1(Build:9789)  -  Rev. 1817496
    2017-12-11 17:25 (This is AOO 32-bit version.)
 2. Libre Office: Version: 6.3.5.2 (x64)
    Build ID: dd0751754f11728f69b42ee2af66670068624673

The two JREs available to me are:

 1. jre-8u201-windows-i586
 2. jre-8u241-windows-x64

Given that a 32-bit java and a 64-bit java should/must not be installed
on the same machine/partition. I therefore must remove one of the JREs
from my machine.....    Or, install and run the AOO 64-bit version, and
keep the JRE-64 bit. But I am uncertain if I would loose any of my
32-bit AOO existing files and/or templates.

How should I proceed if I go ahead with the 64-bit AOO installation? 
Will I loose any 32-bit AOO files/templates? Are there any practical
advantages included in AOO-64 over AOO-32?

Your suggestions will be appreciated.

Thanks for reading this. Stay well and be safe.

VinceB.




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Re: Java Version

Keith N. McKenna
On 5/19/2020 2:17 PM, Vince@GMAIL wrote:

> Hello Group:
>
> My Windows 10 Home is used on a 64-bit architecture DELL desktop.
>
> I recently downloaded and installed Libre Office software.  So, now I
> have both packages:
>
> 1. Apache Open Office: AOO415m1(Build:9789)  -  Rev. 1817496
>    2017-12-11 17:25 (This is AOO 32-bit version.)
> 2. Libre Office: Version: 6.3.5.2 (x64)
>    Build ID: dd0751754f11728f69b42ee2af66670068624673
>
> The two JREs available to me are:
>
> 1. jre-8u201-windows-i586
> 2. jre-8u241-windows-x64
>
> Given that a 32-bit java and a 64-bit java should/must not be installed
> on the same machine/partition. I therefore must remove one of the JREs
> from my machine.....    Or, install and run the AOO 64-bit version, and
> keep the JRE-64 bit. But I am uncertain if I would loose any of my
> 32-bit AOO existing files and/or templates.
>
> How should I proceed if I go ahead with the 64-bit AOO installation? 
> Will I loose any 32-bit AOO files/templates? Are there any practical
> advantages included in AOO-64 over AOO-32?
>
> Your suggestions will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks for reading this. Stay well and be safe.
>
> VinceB.Both jres can co-exist on the same system. with Apache OpenOffice you
need the 32 bit jre if you are using the 64 bit version of LibreOffice
you need the 64 bit version. Which one gets used at least for Apache
OpenOffice is set in Tools->Options->Java.

Regards
Keith



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Re: Java Version

Peter Kovacs-3
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Hi Vince,


there should be no issue in having a 32  bit version and a 64 bit
version on disk.

LibreOffice and OpenOffice can coop very well next to each other. If you
get issue let us know.


All the Best

Peter

Am 19.05.20 um 20:17 schrieb Vince@GMAIL:

> Hello Group:
>
> My Windows 10 Home is used on a 64-bit architecture DELL desktop.
>
> I recently downloaded and installed Libre Office software.  So, now I
> have both packages:
>
> 1. Apache Open Office: AOO415m1(Build:9789)  -  Rev. 1817496
>    2017-12-11 17:25 (This is AOO 32-bit version.)
> 2. Libre Office: Version: 6.3.5.2 (x64)
>    Build ID: dd0751754f11728f69b42ee2af66670068624673
>
> The two JREs available to me are:
>
> 1. jre-8u201-windows-i586
> 2. jre-8u241-windows-x64
>
> Given that a 32-bit java and a 64-bit java should/must not be
> installed on the same machine/partition. I therefore must remove one
> of the JREs from my machine.....    Or, install and run the AOO 64-bit
> version, and keep the JRE-64 bit. But I am uncertain if I would loose
> any of my 32-bit AOO existing files and/or templates.
>
> How should I proceed if I go ahead with the 64-bit AOO installation? 
> Will I loose any 32-bit AOO files/templates? Are there any practical
> advantages included in AOO-64 over AOO-32?
>
> Your suggestions will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks for reading this. Stay well and be safe.
>
> VinceB.
>
>
>
>
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Re: Java Version

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My responses are given in-line with your original message.

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*From:* Vince@GMAIL [mailto:[hidden email]]
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 18:17 UTC
*To:* AOO Mail List
*Subject:* Java Version

> Hello Group:
>
> My Windows 10 Home is used on a 64-bit architecture DELL desktop.
>
> I recently downloaded and installed Libre Office software.  So, now I
> have both packages:
>
> 1. Apache Open Office: AOO415m1(Build:9789)  -  Rev. 1817496
>    2017-12-11 17:25 (This is AOO 32-bit version.)
> 2. Libre Office: Version: 6.3.5.2 (x64)
>    Build ID: dd0751754f11728f69b42ee2af66670068624673
Unless there is a very good reason not to, you should update both to the
latest versions.
> The two JREs available to me are:
>
> 1. jre-8u201-windows-i586
> 2. jre-8u241-windows-x64
Again update both to jre-8u251 https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
> Given that a 32-bit java and a 64-bit java should/must not be
> installed on the same machine/partition.
Where did you acquire this misinformation. For years I have had both 32
& 64 bit JRE installed and never encountered any issues.
> I therefore must remove one of the JREs from my machine.....    Or,
> install and run the AOO 64-bit version, and keep the JRE-64 bit. But I
> am uncertain if I would loose any of my 32-bit AOO existing files
> and/or templates.
Provided you tell AOO to use the 32bit JRE and LO to use the 64bit JRE
it will not be a problem for you. Hint: Tools->Options->OpenOffice->Java
> How should I proceed if I go ahead with the 64-bit AOO installation? 
> Will I loose any 32-bit AOO files/templates?
NO.
> Are there any practical advantages included in AOO-64 over AOO-32?
Not sure what you mean by this.
>
> Your suggestions will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks for reading this. Stay well and be safe.
>
> VinceB.
Hope this helps.

Dave



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Re: Java Version

David Belina-2
One practical advantage is that the 64-bit version works in Mac Caralina?


On May 19, 2020 at 1:12:18 PM, BMCS ([hidden email]) wrote:


My responses are given in-line with your original message.  

------------------------------------------------------------------------  
*From:* Vince@GMAIL [mailto:[hidden email]]  
*Sent:* Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 18:17 UTC  
*To:* AOO Mail List  
*Subject:* Java Version  

> Hello Group:  
>  
> My Windows 10 Home is used on a 64-bit architecture DELL desktop.  
>  
> I recently downloaded and installed Libre Office software.  So, now I  
> have both packages:  
>  
> 1. Apache Open Office: AOO415m1(Build:9789)  -  Rev. 1817496  
>    2017-12-11 17:25 (This is AOO 32-bit version.)  
> 2. Libre Office: Version: 6.3.5.2 (x64)  
>    Build ID: dd0751754f11728f69b42ee2af66670068624673  
Unless there is a very good reason not to, you should update both to the  
latest versions.  
> The two JREs available to me are:  
>  
> 1. jre-8u201-windows-i586  
> 2. jre-8u241-windows-x64  
Again update both to jre-8u251 https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp 
> Given that a 32-bit java and a 64-bit java should/must not be  
> installed on the same machine/partition.  
Where did you acquire this misinformation. For years I have had both 32  
& 64 bit JRE installed and never encountered any issues.  
> I therefore must remove one of the JREs from my machine.....    Or,  
> install and run the AOO 64-bit version, and keep the JRE-64 bit. But I  
> am uncertain if I would loose any of my 32-bit AOO existing files  
> and/or templates.  
Provided you tell AOO to use the 32bit JRE and LO to use the 64bit JRE  
it will not be a problem for you. Hint: Tools->Options->OpenOffice->Java  
> How should I proceed if I go ahead with the 64-bit AOO installation?   
> Will I loose any 32-bit AOO files/templates?  
NO.  
> Are there any practical advantages included in AOO-64 over AOO-32?  
Not sure what you mean by this.  
>  
> Your suggestions will be appreciated.  
>  
> Thanks for reading this. Stay well and be safe.  
>  
> VinceB.  
Hope this helps.  

Dave  



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Re: Java Version

WA.TWORSX via AOL-2
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I will look within C:\\Program Files for the 64-bit jre and within the
C:\\ Program Files(x86) for the 32-bit jre.

I did an update today; within Program Files > Java, showing these folders:

 1. jre1.8.0.241 and
 2. jre1.8.0.251, now.

AFAIK, the versions I gave in my OP for AOO and LO are the latest. I am
on a *n*ormal Release Distribution.

VinceB.

On 5/19/2020 3:11 PM, BMCS wrote:

> My responses are given in-line with your original message.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Vince@GMAIL [mailto:[hidden email]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 18:17 UTC
> *To:* AOO Mail List
> *Subject:* Java Version
>
>> Hello Group:
>>
>> My Windows 10 Home is used on a 64-bit architecture DELL desktop.
>>
>> I recently downloaded and installed Libre Office software.  So, now I
>> have both packages:
>>
>> 1. Apache Open Office: AOO415m1(Build:9789)  -  Rev. 1817496
>>     2017-12-11 17:25 (This is AOO 32-bit version.)
>> 2. Libre Office: Version: 6.3.5.2 (x64)
>>     Build ID: dd0751754f11728f69b42ee2af66670068624673
> Unless there is a very good reason not to, you should update both to the
> latest versions.
>> The two JREs available to me are:
>>
>> 1. jre-8u201-windows-i586
>> 2. jre-8u241-windows-x64
> Again update both to jre-8u251 https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
>> Given that a 32-bit java and a 64-bit java should/must not be
>> installed on the same machine/partition.
> Where did you acquire this misinformation. For years I have had both 32
> & 64 bit JRE installed and never encountered any issues.
>> I therefore must remove one of the JREs from my machine.....    Or,
>> install and run the AOO 64-bit version, and keep the JRE-64 bit. But I
>> am uncertain if I would loose any of my 32-bit AOO existing files
>> and/or templates.
> Provided you tell AOO to use the 32bit JRE and LO to use the 64bit JRE
> it will not be a problem for you. Hint: Tools->Options->OpenOffice->Java
>> How should I proceed if I go ahead with the 64-bit AOO installation?
>> Will I loose any 32-bit AOO files/templates?
> NO.
>> Are there any practical advantages included in AOO-64 over AOO-32?
> Not sure what you mean by this.
>> Your suggestions will be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks for reading this. Stay well and be safe.
>>
>> VinceB.
> Hope this helps.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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Re: Java Version

WA.TWORSX via AOL-2
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BMCS:

When I go to Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice -> Java, I do have a check
mark in box near the top for "Use a Java runtime environment", so I
think AOO has been informed there.  But the next block does not show any
JRE already installed.

I did not locate a Java sub folder in C:\\Program Files(x86), however. 
Is that normal for AOO?


On 5/19/2020 3:11 PM, BMCS wrote:
>
> Provided you tell AOO to use the 32bit JRE and LO to use the 64bit JRE
> it will not be a problem for you. Hint: Tools->Options->OpenOffice->Java
>

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Re: Java Version

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The OP was writing about the Windows and currently there is no 64bit
edition of AOO for Windows.

Dave

On 19/05/2020 22:10, David Belina wrote:

> One practical advantage is that the 64-bit version works in Mac Caralina?
>
>
> On May 19, 2020 at 1:12:18 PM, BMCS ([hidden email]) wrote:
>
>
> My responses are given in-line with your original message.  
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------  
> *From:* Vince@GMAIL [mailto:[hidden email]]  
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 19, 2020, 18:17 UTC  
> *To:* AOO Mail List  
> *Subject:* Java Version  
>
>> Hello Group:  
>>  
>> My Windows 10 Home is used on a 64-bit architecture DELL desktop.  
>>  
>> I recently downloaded and installed Libre Office software.  So, now I  
>> have both packages:  
>>  
>> 1. Apache Open Office: AOO415m1(Build:9789)  -  Rev. 1817496  
>>    2017-12-11 17:25 (This is AOO 32-bit version.)  
>> 2. Libre Office: Version: 6.3.5.2 (x64)  
>>    Build ID: dd0751754f11728f69b42ee2af66670068624673  
> Unless there is a very good reason not to, you should update both to the  
> latest versions.  
>> The two JREs available to me are:  
>>  
>> 1. jre-8u201-windows-i586  
>> 2. jre-8u241-windows-x64  
> Again update both to jre-8u251 https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp 
>> Given that a 32-bit java and a 64-bit java should/must not be  
>> installed on the same machine/partition.  
> Where did you acquire this misinformation. For years I have had both 32  
> & 64 bit JRE installed and never encountered any issues.  
>> I therefore must remove one of the JREs from my machine.....    Or,  
>> install and run the AOO 64-bit version, and keep the JRE-64 bit. But I  
>> am uncertain if I would loose any of my 32-bit AOO existing files  
>> and/or templates.  
> Provided you tell AOO to use the 32bit JRE and LO to use the 64bit JRE  
> it will not be a problem for you. Hint: Tools->Options->OpenOffice->Java  
>> How should I proceed if I go ahead with the 64-bit AOO installation?   
>> Will I loose any 32-bit AOO files/templates?  
> NO.  
>> Are there any practical advantages included in AOO-64 over AOO-32?  
> Not sure what you mean by this.  
>>  
>> Your suggestions will be appreciated.  
>>  
>> Thanks for reading this. Stay well and be safe.  
>>  
>> VinceB.  
> Hope this helps.  
>
> Dave  


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Re: Java Version

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My responses are given in-line with your original message.

On 20/05/2020 00:21, WA.TWORSX via AOL wrote:
> BMCS:
>
> When I go to Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice -> Java, I do have a check
> mark in box near the top for "Use a Java runtime environment", so I
> think AOO has been informed there.  But the next block does not show
> any JRE already installed.
When you go to Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice -> Java you need to wait a
little while for the JRE to be found.
>
> I did not locate a Java sub folder in C:\\Program Files(x86),
> however.  Is that normal for AOO?
I think you mean C:\Program Files(x86) with only one backslash.
The attachment (striped by he list server) shows a snippet from Windows
file manager on one of my Windows 10 machines.

If you have the 32bit JRE installed AOO will normally find it.

Dave

>
> On 5/19/2020 3:11 PM, BMCS wrote:
>>
>> Provided you tell AOO to use the 32bit JRE and LO to use the 64bit JRE
>> it will not be a problem for you. Hint: Tools->Options->OpenOffice->Java
>>
>




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Re: Java Version

WA.TWORSX via AOL-2
Dave and Group:

OKay; I now have a jre1.8.0_251 folder showing under C:Program Files
(x86) Java. I think I am now convinced that a 32-bit JRE is installed on
my computer.

 1. Does that mean that AOO will recognize it?
 2. What additional steps should I do for AOO functionality?
 3. Is there a test that I can/should do?  I think AOO-Base relies on
    JRE; maybe I should attempt to run a Base template, since I do not
    have any Base files of my own doing, yet.

Please excuse my carelessness on the path, earlier.

VinceB.


On 5/20/2020 2:33 AM, BMCS wrote:

> When you go to Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice -> Java you need to wait a
> little while for the JRE to be found.
>
> I think you mean C:\Program Files(x86) with only one backslash.
> The attachment (striped by he list server) shows a snippet from Windows
> file manager on one of my Windows 10 machines.
>
> If you have the 32bit JRE installed AOO will normally find it.
>
> Dave
>
>

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Re[2]: Java Version

Amin Jacek Pędziwiater
To configure the Java environment with the AOO package you only need to
open the settings tab (Tools>Options>Java) and wait for a moment until
the AOO automatically detects the installed JRE and select "Use a Java
runtime environment" and the detected version. If the AOO does not
automatically detect the installed environment you have to use "Add"
button and manually indicate the location of the folder where the JRE is
located.  After saving the settings, the AOO functionality requiring a
JRE should work without problems.

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From: "WA.TWORSX via AOL" <[hidden email]>
To: "BMCS" <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Sent: 5/20/2020 5:39:47 PM
Subject: Re: Java Version

>Dave and Group:
>
>OKay; I now have a jre1.8.0_251 folder showing under C:Program Files (x86) Java. I think I am now convinced that a 32-bit JRE is installed on my computer.
>
>1. Does that mean that AOO will recognize it?
>2. What additional steps should I do for AOO functionality?
>3. Is there a test that I can/should do?  I think AOO-Base relies on
>    JRE; maybe I should attempt to run a Base template, since I do not
>    have any Base files of my own doing, yet.
>
>Please excuse my carelessness on the path, earlier.
>
>VinceB.
>
>
>On 5/20/2020 2:33 AM, BMCS wrote:
>>When you go to Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice -> Java you need to wait a
>>little while for the JRE to be found.
>>
>>I think you mean C:\Program Files(x86) with only one backslash.
>>The attachment (striped by he list server) shows a snippet from Windows
>>file manager on one of my Windows 10 machines.
>>
>>If you have the 32bit JRE installed AOO will normally find it.
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>
>
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Re: Java Version

Brian Barker-2
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At 11:39 20/05/2020 -0400, Vince Bonly wrote:
>OKay; I now have a jre1.8.0_251 folder showing under C:Program Files
>(x86) Java. I think I am now convinced that a 32-bit JRE is
>installed on my computer.
>1. Does that mean that AOO will recognize it?

Not necessarily.

>2. What additional steps should I do for AOO functionality?

Go to Tools | Options.. | OpenOffice | Java | Java options. "Use a
Java runtime environment" needs to be ticked *and* and entry in the
panel below (wait for it to be populated) needs to be explicitly selected.

>3. Is there a test that I can/should do? I think AOO-Base relies on
>JRE; maybe I should attempt to run a Base template, since I do not
>have any Base files of my own doing, yet.

Easier than using Base:
o Open OpenOffice Help - using the button in the Standard toolbar or
by pressing F1.
o Click the Find tab.
o Type something in the "Search term" box.
o Click Find.

If your JRE is working, you will see some results - or possibly a "No
topics found" message.
If a JRE is not selected, you will see an "Enable JRE" error message.
(You can toggle it on there.)

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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