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Dave Fisher-2
Hi -

Unless there are objections I think we should move to the new CMS for openoffice-project and openoffice-org this week in about 72 hours.

Proposed schedule is Wednesday for both.

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Matthias Seidel
Hi Dave,

Am 15.11.20 um 18:37 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> Hi -
>
> Unless there are objections I think we should move to the new CMS for openoffice-project and openoffice-org this week in about 72 hours.

Yes for openoffice-project.

openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out before.

Matthias

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> Proposed schedule is Wednesday for both.
>
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> On Nov 15, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Am 15.11.20 um 18:37 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> Hi -
>>
>> Unless there are objections I think we should move to the new CMS for openoffice-project and openoffice-org this week in about 72 hours.
>
> Yes for openoffice-project.
>
> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out before.

Please provide a link that shows the issue.

Regards,
Dave

>
> Matthias
>
>>
>> Proposed schedule is Wednesday for both.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
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Matthias Seidel
Hi Dave,

Am 15.11.20 um 18:54 schrieb Dave Fisher:

>
>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Am 15.11.20 um 18:37 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> Unless there are objections I think we should move to the new CMS for openoffice-project and openoffice-org this week in about 72 hours.
>> Yes for openoffice-project.
>>
>> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out before.
> Please provide a link that shows the issue.
https://www.openoffice.org vs. https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/ ;-)

As already written, the vertical space between the topics on the main
page is slightly higher. This is on Ubuntu with Firefox and Chrome.

The same for the colored boxes on the download page.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>> Matthias
>>
>>> Proposed schedule is Wednesday for both.
>>>
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Hi,

On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 6:59 PM Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]>
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> Hi Dave,
>
> Am 15.11.20 um 18:54 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> >
> >> On Nov 15, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Matthias Seidel <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Dave,
> >>
> >> Am 15.11.20 um 18:37 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> >>> Hi -
> >>>
> >>> Unless there are objections I think we should move to the new CMS for
> openoffice-project and openoffice-org this week in about 72 hours.
> >> Yes for openoffice-project.
> >>
> >> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out
> before.
> > Please provide a link that shows the issue.
>
> https://www.openoffice.org vs. https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/
> ;-)
>
> As already written, the vertical space between the topics on the main
> page is slightly higher. This is on Ubuntu with Firefox and Chrome.
>
> The same for the colored boxes on the download page.
>
> None of this is a blocker to moving the website, they are minor
differences in layout that can be
resolved later. In fact, I prefer the newer version, the spacing looks
better, but again, this does
not need to hold up the migration.

Gav...


> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave
> >
> >> Matthias
> >>
> >>> Proposed schedule is Wednesday for both.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
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> On Nov 15, 2020, at 10:08 AM, Gavin McDonald <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2020 at 6:59 PM Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Am 15.11.20 um 18:54 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Matthias Seidel <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>
>>>> Am 15.11.20 um 18:37 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>
>>>>> Unless there are objections I think we should move to the new CMS for
>> openoffice-project and openoffice-org this week in about 72 hours.
>>>> Yes for openoffice-project.
>>>>
>>>> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out
>> before.
>>> Please provide a link that shows the issue.
>>
>> https://www.openoffice.org vs. https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/
>> ;-)
>>
>> As already written, the vertical space between the topics on the main
>> page is slightly higher. This is on Ubuntu with Firefox and Chrome.
>>
>> The same for the colored boxes on the download page.
>>
>> None of this is a blocker to moving the website, they are minor
> differences in layout that can be
> resolved later. In fact, I prefer the newer version, the spacing looks
> better, but again, this does
> not need to hold up the migration.

Agreed.

There is a difference which is rather subtle. The page is inserting a non-display <h1> tag for screen readers. It seems like a strange method to me. Instead it should just have it there in the first place. But all of that can be easily fixed in a PR at any time.

Regards,
Dave


>
> Gav...
>
>
>> Regards,
>>
>>   Matthias
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>> Matthias
>>>>
>>>>> Proposed schedule is Wednesday for both.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
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Andrea Pescetti-2
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Matthias Seidel wrote:
> Yes for openoffice-project.
> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out before.

Same for me (both). So: yes for openoffice-project, not yet for
openoffice-org.

The staged layout for openoffice-org has clear issues. Also,
openoffice-org is so complex that I think we should ask Infra to keep
the current site available at old.openoffice.org (just the fully built
site, no CMS) for comparison for a couple weeks.

Just one fix if you need examples: I've committed a small CSS fix
https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/commit/6c57bbe4aa8c63a02986283edc67603c923a49ab
that seems to work well (I don't see it online yet) for
https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org
https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/why/why_sme.html
https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/support/index.html
(three random pages as I miss data from Google Analytics on what is
important), and this is already making quite a difference.

If we identify the top 10 pages and compare them carefully,
openoffice-org may be ready in a matter of days.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Matthias Seidel
Hi Andrea,

Am 15.11.20 um 20:03 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:

> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Yes for openoffice-project.
>> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out
>> before.
>
> Same for me (both). So: yes for openoffice-project, not yet for
> openoffice-org.
>
> The staged layout for openoffice-org has clear issues. Also,
> openoffice-org is so complex that I think we should ask Infra to keep
> the current site available at old.openoffice.org (just the fully built
> site, no CMS) for comparison for a couple weeks.
>
> Just one fix if you need examples: I've committed a small CSS fix
> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/commit/6c57bbe4aa8c63a02986283edc67603c923a49ab
>
> that seems to work well (I don't see it online yet) for
> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org
The main and the download page look good to me now regarding layout.
However they use a different font.
> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/why/why_sme.html
> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/support/index.html
> (three random pages as I miss data from Google Analytics on what is
> important), and this is already making quite a difference.
Again, if you want access to Google Analytic, just send me your gmail
address. ;-)
>
> If we identify the top 10 pages and compare them carefully,
> openoffice-org may be ready in a matter of days.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Dave Fisher-2
Hi -

I found the trouble and will be making a fix in about 30 minutes.

Regards,
Dave

> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Andrea,
>
> Am 15.11.20 um 20:03 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Yes for openoffice-project.
>>> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out
>>> before.
>>
>> Same for me (both). So: yes for openoffice-project, not yet for
>> openoffice-org.
>>
>> The staged layout for openoffice-org has clear issues. Also,
>> openoffice-org is so complex that I think we should ask Infra to keep
>> the current site available at old.openoffice.org (just the fully built
>> site, no CMS) for comparison for a couple weeks.
>>
>> Just one fix if you need examples: I've committed a small CSS fix
>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/commit/6c57bbe4aa8c63a02986283edc67603c923a49ab
>>
>> that seems to work well (I don't see it online yet) for
>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org
> The main and the download page look good to me now regarding layout.
> However they use a different font.
>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/why/why_sme.html
>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/support/index.html
>> (three random pages as I miss data from Google Analytics on what is
>> important), and this is already making quite a difference.
> Again, if you want access to Google Analytic, just send me your gmail
> address. ;-)
>>
>> If we identify the top 10 pages and compare them carefully,
>> openoffice-org may be ready in a matter of days.
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
>>
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Dave Fisher-2
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We do not need google analytics for this information:

https://uls.apache.org/exports/

URI Pageviews
/index.html 2156
/download/index.html 1186
/api/docs/java/ref/index.html 1081
/why/index.html 872
/social/index.html 756
/support/index.html 728
/news/index.html 698
/product/index.html 669
/why/why_volunteers.html 606
/extensions/index.html 566
/donations.html 503
/contact_us.html 487
/projects/native-lang.html 453
/projects/accepted.html 402
/license.html 391
/privacy.html 380
/de/index.html 151
/dba/index.html 150
/sq/index.html 149
/awards/index.html 141
/dev_docs/features/3.1/index.html 140
/hr/index.html 134
/projects/index.html 133
/qa/index.html 130
/product/calc.html 126
/graphics/index.html 111
/support/books.html 111
/documentation/index.html 107
/bibliographic/index.html 105
/ml/index.html 98
/api/SDK/index.html 97
/aa/index.html 96
/ro/index.html 96
/eu/index.html 94
/tg/index.html 94
/api/index.html 92
/porting/index.html 91
/why/why_easy.html 90
/why/why_new_computers.html 89
/ta/index.html 88
/af/index.html 86
/fur/index.html 83
/about_us/milestones.html 82
/dev_docs/features/3.3/index.html 81
/product/draw.html 81
/why/why_sme.html 81
/gsl/index.html 80
/it/contribuire/index.html 80
/eo/index.html 79
/why/why_edu.html 79

Regards,
Dave


> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Andrea Pescetti <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Yes for openoffice-project.
>> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out before.
>
> Same for me (both). So: yes for openoffice-project, not yet for openoffice-org.
>
> The staged layout for openoffice-org has clear issues. Also, openoffice-org is so complex that I think we should ask Infra to keep the current site available at old.openoffice.org (just the fully built site, no CMS) for comparison for a couple weeks.
>
> Just one fix if you need examples: I've committed a small CSS fix
> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/commit/6c57bbe4aa8c63a02986283edc67603c923a49ab
> that seems to work well (I don't see it online yet) for
> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org
> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/why/why_sme.html
> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/support/index.html
> (three random pages as I miss data from Google Analytics on what is important), and this is already making quite a difference.
>
> If we identify the top 10 pages and compare them carefully, openoffice-org may be ready in a matter of days.
>
> Regards,
>  Andrea.
>
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Dave Fisher-2
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Hi -

The fix is done. The trouble was that css/ooo.css was overriding css rather than being overridden.

Regards,
Dave

> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dave Fisher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
> I found the trouble and will be making a fix in about 30 minutes.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Andrea,
>>
>> Am 15.11.20 um 20:03 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>> Yes for openoffice-project.
>>>> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out
>>>> before.
>>>
>>> Same for me (both). So: yes for openoffice-project, not yet for
>>> openoffice-org.
>>>
>>> The staged layout for openoffice-org has clear issues. Also,
>>> openoffice-org is so complex that I think we should ask Infra to keep
>>> the current site available at old.openoffice.org (just the fully built
>>> site, no CMS) for comparison for a couple weeks.
>>>
>>> Just one fix if you need examples: I've committed a small CSS fix
>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/commit/6c57bbe4aa8c63a02986283edc67603c923a49ab
>>>
>>> that seems to work well (I don't see it online yet) for
>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org
>> The main and the download page look good to me now regarding layout.
>> However they use a different font.
>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/why/why_sme.html
>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/support/index.html
>>> (three random pages as I miss data from Google Analytics on what is
>>> important), and this is already making quite a difference.
>> Again, if you want access to Google Analytic, just send me your gmail
>> address. ;-)
>>>
>>> If we identify the top 10 pages and compare them carefully,
>>> openoffice-org may be ready in a matter of days.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>   Matthias
>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>  Andrea.
>>>
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Matthias Seidel
Hi Dave,

Am 15.11.20 um 20:43 schrieb Dave Fisher:
> Hi -
>
> The fix is done. The trouble was that css/ooo.css was overriding css rather than being overridden.

Now it looks almost identical.

The divider between Blogs and News is missing, but that is *really* a
minor point.

Thanks!

Matthias

>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dave Fisher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi -
>>
>> I found the trouble and will be making a fix in about 30 minutes.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>
>>> Am 15.11.20 um 20:03 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>> Yes for openoffice-project.
>>>>> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out
>>>>> before.
>>>> Same for me (both). So: yes for openoffice-project, not yet for
>>>> openoffice-org.
>>>>
>>>> The staged layout for openoffice-org has clear issues. Also,
>>>> openoffice-org is so complex that I think we should ask Infra to keep
>>>> the current site available at old.openoffice.org (just the fully built
>>>> site, no CMS) for comparison for a couple weeks.
>>>>
>>>> Just one fix if you need examples: I've committed a small CSS fix
>>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/commit/6c57bbe4aa8c63a02986283edc67603c923a49ab
>>>>
>>>> that seems to work well (I don't see it online yet) for
>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org
>>> The main and the download page look good to me now regarding layout.
>>> However they use a different font.
>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/why/why_sme.html
>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/support/index.html
>>>> (three random pages as I miss data from Google Analytics on what is
>>>> important), and this is already making quite a difference.
>>> Again, if you want access to Google Analytic, just send me your gmail
>>> address. ;-)
>>>> If we identify the top 10 pages and compare them carefully,
>>>> openoffice-org may be ready in a matter of days.
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>   Matthias
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>  Andrea.
>>>>
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> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> Am 15.11.20 um 20:43 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> Hi -
>>
>> The fix is done. The trouble was that css/ooo.css was overriding css rather than being overridden.
>
> Now it looks almost identical.
>
> The divider between Blogs and News is missing, but that is *really* a
> minor point.

I’m seeing it. Check your vertical scroll. They both are using the same css from home.css.

#news div.campaign {
    min-height: 50px;
    width: 90%;
    padding: 30px 5% 5px 5%;
    margin: 10px 0 0 0;
    background: url(/images/campaign-divider.png) no-repeat center top;
    clear: right;
}

Best Regards,
Dave

>
> Thanks!
>
> Matthias
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dave Fisher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> I found the trouble and will be making a fix in about 30 minutes.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>
>>>> Am 15.11.20 um 20:03 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>> Yes for openoffice-project.
>>>>>> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out
>>>>>> before.
>>>>> Same for me (both). So: yes for openoffice-project, not yet for
>>>>> openoffice-org.
>>>>>
>>>>> The staged layout for openoffice-org has clear issues. Also,
>>>>> openoffice-org is so complex that I think we should ask Infra to keep
>>>>> the current site available at old.openoffice.org (just the fully built
>>>>> site, no CMS) for comparison for a couple weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just one fix if you need examples: I've committed a small CSS fix
>>>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/commit/6c57bbe4aa8c63a02986283edc67603c923a49ab
>>>>>
>>>>> that seems to work well (I don't see it online yet) for
>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org
>>>> The main and the download page look good to me now regarding layout.
>>>> However they use a different font.
>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/why/why_sme.html
>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/support/index.html
>>>>> (three random pages as I miss data from Google Analytics on what is
>>>>> important), and this is already making quite a difference.
>>>> Again, if you want access to Google Analytic, just send me your gmail
>>>> address. ;-)
>>>>> If we identify the top 10 pages and compare them carefully,
>>>>> openoffice-org may be ready in a matter of days.
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>  Matthias
>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Andrea.
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Matthias Seidel
OK, I see them in Chrome, but not in Firefox. ;-)
Which makes it an even smaller issue...

Nothing that should stop us now.

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 15.11.20 um 21:02 schrieb Dave Fisher:

>
>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Am 15.11.20 um 20:43 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> The fix is done. The trouble was that css/ooo.css was overriding css rather than being overridden.
>> Now it looks almost identical.
>>
>> The divider between Blogs and News is missing, but that is *really* a
>> minor point.
> I’m seeing it. Check your vertical scroll. They both are using the same css from home.css.
>
> #news div.campaign {
>     min-height: 50px;
>     width: 90%;
>     padding: 30px 5% 5px 5%;
>     margin: 10px 0 0 0;
>     background: url(/images/campaign-divider.png) no-repeat center top;
>     clear: right;
> }
>
> Best Regards,
> Dave
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dave Fisher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi -
>>>>
>>>> I found the trouble and will be making a fix in about 30 minutes.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 15.11.20 um 20:03 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes for openoffice-project.
>>>>>>> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out
>>>>>>> before.
>>>>>> Same for me (both). So: yes for openoffice-project, not yet for
>>>>>> openoffice-org.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The staged layout for openoffice-org has clear issues. Also,
>>>>>> openoffice-org is so complex that I think we should ask Infra to keep
>>>>>> the current site available at old.openoffice.org (just the fully built
>>>>>> site, no CMS) for comparison for a couple weeks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just one fix if you need examples: I've committed a small CSS fix
>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/commit/6c57bbe4aa8c63a02986283edc67603c923a49ab
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that seems to work well (I don't see it online yet) for
>>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org
>>>>> The main and the download page look good to me now regarding layout.
>>>>> However they use a different font.
>>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/why/why_sme.html
>>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/support/index.html
>>>>>> (three random pages as I miss data from Google Analytics on what is
>>>>>> important), and this is already making quite a difference.
>>>>> Again, if you want access to Google Analytic, just send me your gmail
>>>>> address. ;-)
>>>>>> If we identify the top 10 pages and compare them carefully,
>>>>>> openoffice-org may be ready in a matter of days.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Matthias
>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Andrea.
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+1

> On Nov 15, 2020, at 12:37 PM, Dave Fisher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
> Unless there are objections I think we should move to the new CMS for openoffice-project and openoffice-org this week in about 72 hours.
>
> Proposed schedule is Wednesday for both.
>
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Am 15.11.20 um 21:07 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> OK, I see them in Chrome, but not in Firefox. ;-)
> Which makes it an even smaller issue...

as I've reported the 2 original issues, I've tested again (Firefox on
Linux) and now I don't see a single pixel that is moving when switching
between both website versions fast. :-)

Thanks for the quick analysis and fix!

> Nothing that should stop us now.

+1

@Gavin:
As Andrea already suggested, is it possible to save the current website
[1] and [2] to a temporary domain like "old.*" just to have a reference
when we see further problems?

Then we can better analyse the root cause and fix it - or keep the maybe
better looking layout.

[1] https://www.openoffice.org/
[2] https://openoffice.apache.org/

Thanks

Marcus



> Am 15.11.20 um 21:02 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>
>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> Am 15.11.20 um 20:43 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>> Hi -
>>>>
>>>> The fix is done. The trouble was that css/ooo.css was overriding css rather than being overridden.
>>> Now it looks almost identical.
>>>
>>> The divider between Blogs and News is missing, but that is *really* a
>>> minor point.
>> I’m seeing it. Check your vertical scroll. They both are using the same css from home.css.
>>
>> #news div.campaign {
>>      min-height: 50px;
>>      width: 90%;
>>      padding: 30px 5% 5px 5%;
>>      margin: 10px 0 0 0;
>>      background: url(/images/campaign-divider.png) no-repeat center top;
>>      clear: right;
>> }
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Matthias
>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dave Fisher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>
>>>>> I found the trouble and will be making a fix in about 30 minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 15.11.20 um 20:03 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yes for openoffice-project.
>>>>>>>> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out
>>>>>>>> before.
>>>>>>> Same for me (both). So: yes for openoffice-project, not yet for
>>>>>>> openoffice-org.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The staged layout for openoffice-org has clear issues. Also,
>>>>>>> openoffice-org is so complex that I think we should ask Infra to keep
>>>>>>> the current site available at old.openoffice.org (just the fully built
>>>>>>> site, no CMS) for comparison for a couple weeks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just one fix if you need examples: I've committed a small CSS fix
>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/commit/6c57bbe4aa8c63a02986283edc67603c923a49ab
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that seems to work well (I don't see it online yet) for
>>>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org
>>>>>> The main and the download page look good to me now regarding layout.
>>>>>> However they use a different font.
>>>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/why/why_sme.html
>>>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/support/index.html
>>>>>>> (three random pages as I miss data from Google Analytics on what is
>>>>>>> important), and this is already making quite a difference.
>>>>>> Again, if you want access to Google Analytic, just send me your gmail
>>>>>> address. ;-)
>>>>>>> If we identify the top 10 pages and compare them carefully,
>>>>>>> openoffice-org may be ready in a matter of days.


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Hi Dave,

In the end it was a browser cache issue in Firefox.
After reloading, the staged version is 100% identical with the online
version.

So, no further disturbance from me.. ;-)

Great work from your side!

Regards,

   Matthias

Am 15.11.20 um 21:02 schrieb Dave Fisher:

>
>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> Am 15.11.20 um 20:43 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> The fix is done. The trouble was that css/ooo.css was overriding css rather than being overridden.
>> Now it looks almost identical.
>>
>> The divider between Blogs and News is missing, but that is *really* a
>> minor point.
> I’m seeing it. Check your vertical scroll. They both are using the same css from home.css.
>
> #news div.campaign {
>     min-height: 50px;
>     width: 90%;
>     padding: 30px 5% 5px 5%;
>     margin: 10px 0 0 0;
>     background: url(/images/campaign-divider.png) no-repeat center top;
>     clear: right;
> }
>
> Best Regards,
> Dave
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Matthias
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dave Fisher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi -
>>>>
>>>> I found the trouble and will be making a fix in about 30 minutes.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 15.11.20 um 20:03 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes for openoffice-project.
>>>>>>> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out
>>>>>>> before.
>>>>>> Same for me (both). So: yes for openoffice-project, not yet for
>>>>>> openoffice-org.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The staged layout for openoffice-org has clear issues. Also,
>>>>>> openoffice-org is so complex that I think we should ask Infra to keep
>>>>>> the current site available at old.openoffice.org (just the fully built
>>>>>> site, no CMS) for comparison for a couple weeks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just one fix if you need examples: I've committed a small CSS fix
>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/commit/6c57bbe4aa8c63a02986283edc67603c923a49ab
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that seems to work well (I don't see it online yet) for
>>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org
>>>>> The main and the download page look good to me now regarding layout.
>>>>> However they use a different font.
>>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/why/why_sme.html
>>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/support/index.html
>>>>>> (three random pages as I miss data from Google Analytics on what is
>>>>>> important), and this is already making quite a difference.
>>>>> Again, if you want access to Google Analytic, just send me your gmail
>>>>> address. ;-)
>>>>>> If we identify the top 10 pages and compare them carefully,
>>>>>> openoffice-org may be ready in a matter of days.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Matthias
>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Andrea.
>>>>>>
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> On Nov 15, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Marcus <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Am 15.11.20 um 21:07 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> OK, I see them in Chrome, but not in Firefox. ;-)
>> Which makes it an even smaller issue...
>
> as I've reported the 2 original issues, I've tested again (Firefox on Linux) and now I don't see a single pixel that is moving when switching between both website versions fast. :-)
>
> Thanks for the quick analysis and fix!
>
>> Nothing that should stop us now.
>
> +1
>
> @Gavin:
> As Andrea already suggested, is it possible to save the current website [1] and [2] to a temporary domain like "old.*" just to have a reference when we see further problems?

Perhaps we can just use the Apache CMS staging urls? The CMS does put staged and production sites into SVN, so ... I think that is enough.

Regards,
Dave

>
> Then we can better analyse the root cause and fix it - or keep the maybe better looking layout.
>
> [1] https://www.openoffice.org/
> [2] https://openoffice.apache.org/
>
> Thanks
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>>> Am 15.11.20 um 21:02 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Dave,
>>>>
>>>> Am 15.11.20 um 20:43 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>
>>>>> The fix is done. The trouble was that css/ooo.css was overriding css rather than being overridden.
>>>> Now it looks almost identical.
>>>>
>>>> The divider between Blogs and News is missing, but that is *really* a
>>>> minor point.
>>> I’m seeing it. Check your vertical scroll. They both are using the same css from home.css.
>>>
>>> #news div.campaign {
>>>     min-height: 50px;
>>>     width: 90%;
>>>     padding: 30px 5% 5px 5%;
>>>     margin: 10px 0 0 0;
>>>     background: url(/images/campaign-divider.png) no-repeat center top;
>>>     clear: right;
>>> }
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Matthias
>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Dave Fisher <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found the trouble and will be making a fix in about 30 minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Andrea,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 15.11.20 um 20:03 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>>>> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Yes for openoffice-project.
>>>>>>>>> openoffice-org has some optical glitches that should be ironed out
>>>>>>>>> before.
>>>>>>>> Same for me (both). So: yes for openoffice-project, not yet for
>>>>>>>> openoffice-org.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The staged layout for openoffice-org has clear issues. Also,
>>>>>>>> openoffice-org is so complex that I think we should ask Infra to keep
>>>>>>>> the current site available at old.openoffice.org (just the fully built
>>>>>>>> site, no CMS) for comparison for a couple weeks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just one fix if you need examples: I've committed a small CSS fix
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/apache/openoffice-org/commit/6c57bbe4aa8c63a02986283edc67603c923a49ab
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> that seems to work well (I don't see it online yet) for
>>>>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org
>>>>>>> The main and the download page look good to me now regarding layout.
>>>>>>> However they use a different font.
>>>>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/why/why_sme.html
>>>>>>>> https://openoffice-org.staged.apache.org/support/index.html
>>>>>>>> (three random pages as I miss data from Google Analytics on what is
>>>>>>>> important), and this is already making quite a difference.
>>>>>>> Again, if you want access to Google Analytic, just send me your gmail
>>>>>>> address. ;-)
>>>>>>>> If we identify the top 10 pages and compare them carefully,
>>>>>>>> openoffice-org may be ready in a matter of days.
>
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> yes for openoffice-project, not yet for openoffice-org.

I'm changing this to a "yes" for both sites after the recent changes.
Both sites are now almost identical to their CMS counterpart. Well done!

One thing I'd appreciate, but this goes off-topic, is better
notifications: I got a few e-mails yesterday containing 7 MBytes of logs
each and it is almost impossible to use them for monitoring.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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I’ve created https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-21111 for Wednesday.


> On Nov 16, 2020, at 1:35 PM, Andrea Pescetti <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On 15/11/2020 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> yes for openoffice-project, not yet for openoffice-org.
>
> I'm changing this to a "yes" for both sites after the recent changes. Both sites are now almost identical to their CMS counterpart. Well done!

Thank you. Do you still want access to the old as a built site? (I think it is not needed.)
>
> One thing I'd appreciate, but this goes off-topic, is better notifications: I got a few e-mails yesterday containing 7 MBytes of logs each and it is almost impossible to use them for monitoring.

Which emails? The ones with the build.log attached? Or the one where I fixed the css issue and touched 19000 html files? The build.log can be turned off. The other won’t happen often; it would be cases like turning off google analytics or a new design.

Regards,
Dave

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>  Andrea.
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