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Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

thomas.lange

Hi all,

If anyone still has a dictionary update that should be integrated into
OOo 3.2 please file an issue and attach the respective files.
You may assign the issue directly to me (tl).

It would be best if the issues got submitted at this Sunday evening at
latest, because than I could integrate all of them in the same CWS I
currently have at hand.

As for dictionaries for new language that are not already in the source
tree: I can not promise that they will be added in time for 3.2 since
there has to be some legal review for those.


Regards,
Thomas

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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

Michel Weimerskirch
Hi

I do not have a dictionary update, but an update for the autocorrect
data for Luxembourgish:
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=103247
I hope you can take a look at it and integrate it into your CWS for 3.2 as well.

Regards,
Michel

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:00, Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 -
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>
> Hi all,
>
> If anyone still has a dictionary update that should be integrated into
> OOo 3.2 please file an issue and attach the respective files.
> You may assign the issue directly to me (tl).
>
> It would be best if the issues got submitted at this Sunday evening at
> latest, because than I could integrate all of them in the same CWS I
> currently have at hand.
>
> As for dictionaries for new language that are not already in the source
> tree: I can not promise that they will be added in time for 3.2 since
> there has to be some legal review for those.
>
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

Olivier R.-2
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Hi Thomas,

Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg a écrit :

> If anyone still has a dictionary update that should be integrated into
> OOo 3.2 please file an issue and attach the respective files.
> You may assign the issue directly to me (tl).
>
> It would be best if the issues got submitted at this Sunday evening at
> latest, because than I could integrate all of them in the same CWS I
> currently have at hand.
>
> As for dictionaries for new language that are not already in the source
> tree: I can not promise that they will be added in time for 3.2 since
> there has to be some legal review for those.

I installed OOo 3.2 DEV300m60, and I noticed that the French
dictionaries extension was an old one (v2.3.3), whereas the version
included in OOo 3.1 was the version 3.2.0.
Why such a regression?

I created an issue for the latest dictionaries (v3.4.1):
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105510

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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

thomas.lange

Hi Olivier,

Ok.

Thanks!
Thomas

> Hi Thomas,
>
> Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg a écrit :
>
> > If anyone still has a dictionary update that should be integrated into
> > OOo 3.2 please file an issue and attach the respective files.
> > You may assign the issue directly to me (tl).
> >
> > It would be best if the issues got submitted at this Sunday evening at
> > latest, because than I could integrate all of them in the same CWS I
> > currently have at hand.
> >
> > As for dictionaries for new language that are not already in the source
> > tree: I can not promise that they will be added in time for 3.2 since
> > there has to be some legal review for those.
>
> I installed OOo 3.2 DEV300m60, and I noticed that the French
> dictionaries extension was an old one (v2.3.3), whereas the version
> included in OOo 3.1 was the version 3.2.0.
> Why such a regression?
>
> I created an issue for the latest dictionaries (v3.4.1):
> http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105510
>
> Regards,
>  



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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

Mathias Bauer
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Olivier R. wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
>
> Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg a écrit :
>
>> If anyone still has a dictionary update that should be integrated into
>> OOo 3.2 please file an issue and attach the respective files.
>> You may assign the issue directly to me (tl).
>>
>> It would be best if the issues got submitted at this Sunday evening at
>> latest, because than I could integrate all of them in the same CWS I
>> currently have at hand.
>>
>> As for dictionaries for new language that are not already in the source
>> tree: I can not promise that they will be added in time for 3.2 since
>> there has to be some legal review for those.
>
> I installed OOo 3.2 DEV300m60, and I noticed that the French
> dictionaries extension was an old one (v2.3.3), whereas the version
> included in OOo 3.1 was the version 3.2.0.
> Why such a regression?

In OOo 3.0 we integrated 2.3.3:

http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=91426

Probably the newer dictionary version was integrated on the OOO310
branch only, but not on the DEV300 branch that now became the OOO320
branch. Thanks for letting us know that.

Regards,
Mathias

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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

neskie
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I would like to submit a dictionary, but dont have the final go ahead
for using the wordlist. I should get permission after a meeting next
Thursday. Would that be to late? It is for the secwepemc language. Our
project said is shs.openoffice.org.

On 10/1/09, Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> If anyone still has a dictionary update that should be integrated into
> OOo 3.2 please file an issue and attach the respective files.
> You may assign the issue directly to me (tl).
>
> It would be best if the issues got submitted at this Sunday evening at
> latest, because than I could integrate all of them in the same CWS I
> currently have at hand.
>
> As for dictionaries for new language that are not already in the source
> tree: I can not promise that they will be added in time for 3.2 since
> there has to be some legal review for those.
>
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

thomas.lange

Hi Neskie,


Neskie Manuel wrote:
> I would like to submit a dictionary, but dont have the final go ahead
> for using the wordlist. I should get permission after a meeting next
> Thursday. Would that be to late? It is for the secwepemc language. Our
> project said is shs.openoffice.org.
>  
It could be done but as said it would create extra workload in QA which
is always bad right ahead of a release.

However in your case I see a way bigger problem!
For a language/dictionary to work with spell checking etc. we need a
proper ISO locale for the language (e.g. en_CA). But when I tried to
find one for secwepemc (Shuswap) I didn't get any result.

Of course it would be possible to misapply another existing, and so far
unused, locale to get spell checking done. And I have no problem with
such a dictionary existing in the extension repository (see
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org) since it will still be useful
to many people. Actually spell checking for Latin was done like that for
a long time...
But I have my problems with integrating a dictionary that misapplies a
language into the vanilla product.

Tl->ER: Do you know if there is a working locale for Secwepemc? Any
further comments?


Regards,
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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

eike.rathke
Hi Thomas,

On Friday, 2009-10-02 10:00:21 +0200, Thomas Lange wrote:

> Neskie Manuel wrote:
> > I would like to submit a dictionary, but dont have the final go ahead
> > for using the wordlist. I should get permission after a meeting next
> > Thursday. Would that be to late? It is for the secwepemc language. Our
> > project said is shs.openoffice.org.
> >  
> It could be done but as said it would create extra workload in QA which
> is always bad right ahead of a release.
>
> However in your case I see a way bigger problem!
> For a language/dictionary to work with spell checking etc. we need a
> proper ISO locale for the language (e.g. en_CA). But when I tried to
> find one for secwepemc (Shuswap) I didn't get any result.
But we have, since OOo3.1:
#define LANGUAGE_USER_SHUSWAP               0x0648
    { LANGUAGE_USER_SHUSWAP,               "shs", "CA" },
i18npool/source/localedata/data/shs_CA.xml
svtools/source/misc/langtab.src:
        < "Shuswap" ; LANGUAGE_USER_SHUSWAP ; > ;

So technical prerequisites are fulfilled.

Btw, Thomas, you might be interested in the tool
i18npool/source/isolang/langid.pl

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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

neskie
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There is a working locale it is shs_CA. It is in  OO.o. I hate to make
work for you. That being said i still have to wait for Thursday.

On 10/2/09, Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg
<[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hi Neskie,
>
>
> Neskie Manuel wrote:
>> I would like to submit a dictionary, but dont have the final go ahead
>> for using the wordlist. I should get permission after a meeting next
>> Thursday. Would that be to late? It is for the secwepemc language. Our
>> project said is shs.openoffice.org.
>>
> It could be done but as said it would create extra workload in QA which
> is always bad right ahead of a release.
>
> However in your case I see a way bigger problem!
> For a language/dictionary to work with spell checking etc. we need a
> proper ISO locale for the language (e.g. en_CA). But when I tried to
> find one for secwepemc (Shuswap) I didn't get any result.
>
> Of course it would be possible to misapply another existing, and so far
> unused, locale to get spell checking done. And I have no problem with
> such a dictionary existing in the extension repository (see
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org) since it will still be useful
> to many people. Actually spell checking for Latin was done like that for
> a long time...
> But I have my problems with integrating a dictionary that misapplies a
> language into the vanilla product.
>
> Tl->ER: Do you know if there is a working locale for Secwepemc? Any
> further comments?
>
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

Olivier Hallot
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Hi Thomas

First of all, thank you for leting us know that we have a window for
upgrading our dictionary. I hope you will annouce it for all
forthcomming release as well.

Please find in http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105564
our upgrade for OO 3.2

Regards
Olivier

Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg escreveu:

> Hi all,
>
> If anyone still has a dictionary update that should be integrated into
> OOo 3.2 please file an issue and attach the respective files.
> You may assign the issue directly to me (tl).
>
> It would be best if the issues got submitted at this Sunday evening at
> latest, because than I could integrate all of them in the same CWS I
> currently have at hand.
>
> As for dictionaries for new language that are not already in the source
> tree: I can not promise that they will be added in time for 3.2 since
> there has to be some legal review for those.
>
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

Goran Rakic
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Hi Thomas,

Following the Luxembougish example I have created the first version of
Serbian AutoCorrect data.

http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105592

Thanks for taking your time to integrate this into the next release.

Goran


> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:00, Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 -
> Hamburg <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > If anyone still has a dictionary update that should be integrated into
> > OOo 3.2 please file an issue and attach the respective files.
> > You may assign the issue directly to me (tl).
> >



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Re: [l10n-dev] Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

thomas.lange
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Hi again,

Minor update: product management decided that new auto correction data
will be targeted to OOo 3.3.

The reason why dictionary extensions get handled differently is that it
is considered to be annoying if the user will just have installed a new
OOo 3.2 and that one is going to install updates right away.


Regards,
Thomas



Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> If anyone still has a dictionary update that should be integrated into
> OOo 3.2 please file an issue and attach the respective files.
> You may assign the issue directly to me (tl).
>
> It would be best if the issues got submitted at this Sunday evening at
> latest, because than I could integrate all of them in the same CWS I
> currently have at hand.
>
> As for dictionaries for new language that are not already in the source
> tree: I can not promise that they will be added in time for 3.2 since
> there has to be some legal review for those.
>
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

thomas.lange
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Hi Goran,

First thanks for the auto correction data!

However, due to product management decision will go into OOo 3.3 and not
OOo 3.2.
See my latest posting in the ML for more about this.

I hope you will not be disappointed too much.

Regards,
Thomas


Goran Rakic wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
>
> Following the Luxembougish example I have created the first version of
> Serbian AutoCorrect data.
>
> http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=105592
>
> Thanks for taking your time to integrate this into the next release.
>
> Goran
>
>
> > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:00, Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 -
> > Hamburg <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > If anyone still has a dictionary update that should be integrated into
> > > OOo 3.2 please file an issue and attach the respective files.
> > > You may assign the issue directly to me (tl).
> > >
>
>
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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

neskie
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Weytk,

My presentation to the Secwepemc Cultural Education Society (SCES)
board was accepted and the board has agreed to support the release of
their wordlist under the LGPL for use in a Hunspell dictionary.  Would
a letter statying that they release their wordlist be good and would
someone have a template for this?

Thanks
Neskie

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 -
Hamburg <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hi Neskie,
>
>
> Neskie Manuel wrote:
>> I would like to submit a dictionary, but dont have the final go ahead
>> for using the wordlist. I should get permission after a meeting next
>> Thursday. Would that be to late? It is for the secwepemc language. Our
>> project said is shs.openoffice.org.
>>
> It could be done but as said it would create extra workload in QA which
> is always bad right ahead of a release.
>
> However in your case I see a way bigger problem!
> For a language/dictionary to work with spell checking etc. we need a
> proper ISO locale for the language (e.g. en_CA). But when I tried to
> find one for secwepemc (Shuswap) I didn't get any result.
>
> Of course it would be possible to misapply another existing, and so far
> unused, locale to get spell checking done. And I have no problem with
> such a dictionary existing in the extension repository (see
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org) since it will still be useful
> to many people. Actually spell checking for Latin was done like that for
> a long time...
> But I have my problems with integrating a dictionary that misapplies a
> language into the vanilla product.
>
> Tl->ER: Do you know if there is a working locale for Secwepemc? Any
> further comments?
>
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

thomas.lange

Hi Neskie,

Neskie Manuel wrote:

> Weytk,
>
> My presentation to the Secwepemc Cultural Education Society (SCES)
> board was accepted and the board has agreed to support the release of
> their wordlist under the LGPL for use in a Hunspell dictionary.  Would
> a letter statying that they release their wordlist be good and would
> someone have a template for this?

Nope. Everyone does it like he/she thinks it to be fine.

If you want a reference look into the sub directories of the
'dictionaries' project in the source tree.

Usually it is some file named license.txt or README* and then that one
is either one of
  - simply stating which license do apply (for example GPL v3)
  - or pride a link to the actual license text
  - or have a copy of the license text in that file
Sometime even multiple licenses are listed e.g. GPL and MPL.


Thomas



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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

Sunday Bolaji
Hi,
     Is there any way to test .oxt package (spelling checker) before uploading it

--- On Thu, 10/15/09, Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Thomas Lange - Sun Germany - ham02 - Hamburg <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [lingu-dev] Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2
To: [hidden email], "Eike Rathke" <[hidden email]>
Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 2:26 AM


Hi Neskie,

Neskie Manuel wrote:

> Weytk,
>
> My presentation to the Secwepemc Cultural Education Society (SCES)
> board was accepted and the board has agreed to support the release of
> their wordlist under the LGPL for use in a Hunspell dictionary.  Would
> a letter statying that they release their wordlist be good and would
> someone have a template for this?

Nope. Everyone does it like he/she thinks it to be fine.

If you want a reference look into the sub directories of the
'dictionaries' project in the source tree.

Usually it is some file named license.txt or README* and then that one
is either one of
  - simply stating which license do apply (for example GPL v3)
  - or pride a link to the actual license text
  - or have a copy of the license text in that file
Sometime even multiple licenses are listed e.g. GPL and MPL.


Thomas



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Re: Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2

Olivier R.-2
Hi,

Sunday Bolaji a écrit :
> Hi,
>      Is there any way to test .oxt package (spelling checker) before uploading it

Why don’t you test it with OpenOffice.org?

When you upload an extension, you can decide to not publish it if you
feel you need to test it more. :)

Regards,
Olivier

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thomas.lange
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Hi,

Sunday Bolaji wrote:
> Hi,
>      Is there any way to test .oxt package (spelling checker) before
> uploading
>

Umhhh... How about installing the extension with the Extension Manager
of OOo? ^_-
See "Tools/Extension Manager" and then click "Add".

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Test OXT PACKAGE IN OOo 3

Sunday Bolaji
Hi,
    Is there any way to test .OXT package in OOo 3 .

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Subject: Re: [lingu-dev] Last call for dictionary updates to be integrated in OOo 3.2
To: "Sunday Bolaji" <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Date: Thursday, October 15, 2009, 5:36 AM


Hi,

Sunday Bolaji wrote:
> Hi,
>      Is there any way to test .oxt package (spelling checker) before
> uploading
>

Umhhh... How about installing the extension with the Extension Manager
of OOo? ^_-
See "Tools/Extension Manager" and then click "Add".

Thomas



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Jancs
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> Hi,
>     Is there any way to test .OXT package in OOo 3 .

yes, there is - by installing it on your computer through OO Extension  
manager.

Janis

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