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Open Office 4.7.1 Spell Checker

Paul R. Morin
When do you plan to or do you plan to have the spell checker work on Open Office 4.7.1? Open Office is a great app but the spell checker doesn’t work. What older versions of Open Offices spell checker works when installed from the download?

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Re: Open Office 4.7.1 Spell Checker

David Robley
Spell check generally works if properly used - see
https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=16512 for
guidance on how to get it working.

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On 13/10/20 12:03 pm, Paul R. Morin wrote:
> When do you plan to or do you plan to have the spell checker work on Open Office 4.7.1? Open Office is a great app but the spell checker doesn’t work. What older versions of Open Offices spell checker works when installed from the download?
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Re: Open Office 4.7.1 Spell Checker

Dan Lewis
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A similar question occurs to me. When will this problem be corrected? It
has been an all too common problem. LibreOffice solved this problem some
time ago. Surely, that solution should have point out a way to make the
correction. This is not to put down OOo at all, but is my desire that
OOo be made a better office program. People who use it should have it.

Dan

On 10/12/20 21:33, Paul R. Morin wrote:
> When do you plan to or do you plan to have the spell checker work on Open Office 4.7.1? Open Office is a great app but the spell checker doesn’t work. What older versions of Open Offices spell checker works when installed from the download?
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Re: Open Office 4.[1.7] Spell Checker

Brian Barker-2
At 08:10 13/10/2020 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:
>On 10/12/20 21:33, Paul R. Morin wrote:
>>When do you plan to or do you plan to have the spell checker work
>>on Open Office 4.[1.7]? Open Office is a great app but the spell
>>checker doesn't work.
>
>A similar question occurs to me. When will this problem be corrected?

Er, what problem, please? Spelling checking works for me and for
millions of others. Why not for you?

Brian Barker


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Re: Open Office 4.[1.7] Spell Checker

Dan Lewis
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On 10/13/20 08:31, Brian Barker wrote:

> At 08:10 13/10/2020 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:
>> On 10/12/20 21:33, Paul R. Morin wrote:
>>> When do you plan to or do you plan to have the spell checker work on
>>> Open Office 4.[1.7]? Open Office is a great app but the spell
>>> checker doesn't work.
>>
>> A similar question occurs to me. When will this problem be corrected?
>
> Er, what problem, please? Spelling checking works for me and for
> millions of others. Why not for you?
>
> Brian Barker

    For more than 10 years, the configure folder has become corrupted by
some action. This prevents the spell checker from working any more.
Deleting the this folder and then running OOo corrects this as you
already know. LibreOffice has learned how to avoid this. Since these two
office programs are very similar, I would think that the solution would
be to apply the same solution.

    I also know that this affect very few people, but it is a consistent
problem that appears in this mailing list.


Dan


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Re: Open Office 4.[1.7] Spell Checker

Brian Barker-2
At 11:00 13/10/2020 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:

>On 10/13/20 08:31, Brian Barker wrote:
>>At 08:10 13/10/2020 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:
>>>On 10/12/20 21:33, Paul R. Morin wrote:
>>>>When do you plan to or do you plan to have the spell checker work
>>>>on Open Office 4.[1.7]? Open Office is a great app but the spell
>>>>checker doesn't work.
>>>
>>>A similar question occurs to me. When will this problem be corrected?
>>
>>Er, what problem, please? Spelling checking works for me and for
>>millions of others. Why not for you?
>
>For more than 10 years, the configure folder has become corrupted by
>some action. This prevents the spell checker from working any more.

Aha! But this problem is not a matter of "the spell checker doesn't
work", so we don't know - indeed you don't know - that this is what
the original questioner is experiencing. And you didn't indicate that
this different problem - that spelling checking works until you
mishandle your computer but then doesn't - is what you were talking about.

>Deleting the this folder and then running OOo corrects this as you
>already know. LibreOffice has learned how to avoid this. Since these
>two office programs are very similar, I would think that the
>solution would be to apply the same solution.

Yes, I agree that this later problem should be prevented, but we
should not give users generally the untrue idea that "the spell
checker doesn't work". Meanwhile we should encourage them into the
good practice that avoids it anyway.

Brian Barker  


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Re: Open Office 4.[1.7] Spell Checker

Dan Lewis
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On 10/13/20 12:31, Brian Barker wrote:

> At 11:00 13/10/2020 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:
>> On 10/13/20 08:31, Brian Barker wrote:
>>> At 08:10 13/10/2020 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:
>>>> On 10/12/20 21:33, Paul R. Morin wrote:
>>>>> When do you plan to or do you plan to have the spell checker work
>>>>> on Open Office 4.[1.7]? Open Office is a great app but the spell
>>>>> checker doesn't work.
>>>>
>>>> A similar question occurs to me. When will this problem be corrected?
>>>
>>> Er, what problem, please? Spelling checking works for me and for
>>> millions of others. Why not for you?
>>
>> For more than 10 years, the configure folder has become corrupted by
>> some action. This prevents the spell checker from working any more.
>
> Aha! But this problem is not a matter of "the spell checker doesn't
> work", so we don't know - indeed you don't know - that this is what
> the original questioner is experiencing. And you didn't indicate that
> this different problem - that spelling checking works until you
> mishandle your computer but then doesn't - is what you were talking
> about.
>
>> Deleting the this folder and then running OOo corrects this as you
>> already know. LibreOffice has learned how to avoid this. Since these
>> two office programs are very similar, I would think that the solution
>> would be to apply the same solution.
>
> Yes, I agree that this later problem should be prevented, but we
> should not give users generally the untrue idea that "the spell
> checker doesn't work". Meanwhile we should encourage them into the
> good practice that avoids it anyway.
>
> Brian Barker

I agree with you. What I should have pointed out as to what the likely
problem is that the user was having which I did not. Instead I assumed
that everyone would know what has been obvious on so many computers
running OOo: the configuration folder has become corrupt. It has become
a reflex action.

Dan

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Re: Open Office 4.[1.7] Spell Checker

Keith N. McKenna
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On 10/13/2020 11:00 AM, Dan Lewis wrote:

>
> On 10/13/20 08:31, Brian Barker wrote:
>> At 08:10 13/10/2020 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:
>>> On 10/12/20 21:33, Paul R. Morin wrote:
>>>> When do you plan to or do you plan to have the spell checker work on
>>>> Open Office 4.[1.7]? Open Office is a great app but the spell
>>>> checker doesn't work.
>>>
>>> A similar question occurs to me. When will this problem be corrected?
>>
>> Er, what problem, please? Spelling checking works for me and for
>> millions of others. Why not for you?
>>
>> Brian Barker
>
>    For more than 10 years, the configure folder has become corrupted by
> some action. This prevents the spell checker from working any more.
> Deleting the this folder and then running OOo corrects this as you
> already know. LibreOffice has learned how to avoid this. Since these two
> office programs are very similar, I would think that the solution would
> be to apply the same solution.
>
>    I also know that this affect very few people, but it is a consistent
> problem that appears in this mailing list.
>
>
> Dan
Dan;

Just because LO fixed it does not mean that AOO can apply that patch. In
general LO is duel licensed under Mozilla Public License v2 and the GNU
Lesser GPL v3+ licenses which are incompatible with the Apache License
version 2.0 (ALV2) and cannot be used unless the developer also
licensees it under the ALV2[1].

[1] https://apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x


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Re: Open Office 4.[1.7] Spell Checker

Hagar Delest-2
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Le 13/10/2020 à 18:31, Brian Barker a écrit :
> Aha! But this problem is not a matter of "the spell checker doesn't
> work", so we don't know - indeed you don't know - that this is what
> the original questioner is experiencing. And you didn't indicate that
> this different problem - that spelling checking works until you
> mishandle your computer but then doesn't - is what you were talking about.
What makes you think that the user mishandled his computer?
This has been a recurring issue in the forum as well. I can't believe
that all these users do mishandle their computer.

>> Deleting the this folder and then running OOo corrects this as you
>> already know. LibreOffice has learned how to avoid this. Since these
>> two office programs are very similar, I would think that the solution
>> would be to apply the same solution.
>
> Yes, I agree that this later problem should be prevented, but we
> should not give users generally the untrue idea that "the spell
> checker doesn't work". Meanwhile we should encourage them into the
> good practice that avoids it anyway.
What kind of best practice do you have in mind?

There IS an issue somewhere. I do not doubt that this is a weird issue
but it happens, period. If LO has fixed the problem, then they may have
found something, then there may be something to be found.

Hagar

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Re: Open Office 4.[1.7] Spell Checker

Andrea Pescetti-2
Hagar Delest wrote:
> There IS an issue somewhere. I do not doubt that this is a weird issue
> but it happens, period.

It is very hard to get a copy of a broken profile to study. When the
report was more frequent, years ago, we asked for broken profiles and I
think we even built a survey to help identifying the cause; but that
didn't help (honestly, many users are even unable to fix it with the
instructions we give them).

> then they may have found something, then there may be something to be found.

At a point it was believed that the original problem was the decision to
migrate 3.x profiles over to 4.x; "sometimes" this would result in
damaging the profile; it would be interesting to know whether this is
still reasonable or whether people manage to get this error even if they
install a fresh 4.1.7 and keep using it.

This would also explain why other programs don't have the issue, if they
really don't.

Focusing on what we can do now, I'd say the easiest thing to do is a
"Tools - Reset profile" menu item, or alternatively a "Start with a
fresh profile" option at install time. Volunteers welcome etc... but
this would probably be helpful to users beyond the specific issue.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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