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OpenOffice 4.0.1

Stöver, Hans-Werner
Hi,

Openoffice was a very good and easy to use program.
With the last versions it got more and more useless.
I was using OpenOffice from the beginning in Hamburg for about more than 14 years now.
But yet I deleted this for me useless program and I bought Microsoft Office.
Microsoft is expensive, but Microsoft looks what the people need
and not what  the coder likes and puts inside.
Who made the decision to change the "save", "save to" and the "Open" dialog?
Why must I click so many times to find my desktop for saving documents?
Why is the direct link in the saving dialog to "desktop", "network" and "my documents" gone?

It is just the same as Adobe it does with the Adobe reader.
In former times it was a very good and useful program.
Now it is big and slow and for presenting and reading PDFs it is useless.
The same happened to OpenOffice.
From a nice and good program you made a pack of shit.
So keep it and I will use Microsoft Office in future.

In Germany we call this "Kundenverarschung"

Only my minor opinion.

Regards
Hans Stöver


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Re: OpenOffice 4.0.1

irgunii
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:29:33 +0100
"Stöver, Hans-Werner" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
  <snip>
> The same happened to OpenOffice.
> From a nice and good program you made a pack of shit.
> So keep it and I will use Microsoft Office in future.
>
> In Germany we call this "Kundenverarschung"
>
> Only my minor opinion.
>

  It's okay, we think as little of people like you too...shit.


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Re: OpenOffice 4.0.1

Carlo Strata
Hi People,

have you tried to use LibreOffice instead?
http://www.libreoffice.org/

May be for your use better than OOo...

So, try coming with us (!): there is a very big Community out there
(http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/) and an open Foundation too
(http://www.documentfoundation.org/) with meritocracy based rules.

Have a nice day and Happy Christmas!

Carlo

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Il 19/12/2013 13:41, TN Patriot ha scritto:

> On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:29:33 +0100
> "Stöver, Hans-Werner" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>    <snip>
>> The same happened to OpenOffice.
>>  From a nice and good program you made a pack of shit.
>> So keep it and I will use Microsoft Office in future.
>>
>> In Germany we call this "Kundenverarschung"
>>
>> Only my minor opinion.
>>
>    It's okay, we think as little of people like you too...shit.
>
>


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Re: OpenOffice 4.0.1

John Meyer
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I think troll ist troll auf Deutsch odor English. Frisst du die Troll
nicht bitte!

On 12/19/2013 5:41 AM, TN Patriot wrote:

> On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 09:29:33 +0100
> "Stöver, Hans-Werner" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>    <snip>
>> The same happened to OpenOffice.
>>  From a nice and good program you made a pack of shit.
>> So keep it and I will use Microsoft Office in future.
>>
>> In Germany we call this "Kundenverarschung"
>>
>> Only my minor opinion.
>>
>    It's okay, we think as little of people like you too...shit.
>
>


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Re: OpenOffice 4.0.1

Johnny Rosenberg
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2013/12/19 Stöver, Hans-Werner <[hidden email]>

> Hi,
>
> Openoffice was a very good and easy to use program.
> With the last versions it got more and more useless.
> I was using OpenOffice from the beginning in Hamburg for about more than
> 14 years now.
> But yet I deleted this for me useless program and I bought Microsoft
> Office.
> Microsoft is expensive, but Microsoft looks what the people need
> and not what  the coder likes and puts inside.
> Who made the decision to change the "save", "save to" and the "Open"
> dialog?
> Why must I click so many times to find my desktop for saving documents?
> Why is the direct link in the saving dialog to "desktop", "network" and
> "my documents" gone?
>
> It is just the same as Adobe it does with the Adobe reader.
> In former times it was a very good and useful program.
> Now it is big and slow and for presenting and reading PDFs it is useless.
> The same happened to OpenOffice.
> From a nice and good program you made a pack of shit.
> So keep it and I will use Microsoft Office in future.
>
> In Germany we call this "Kundenverarschung"
>
> Only my minor opinion.
>

Different people, different opinions. To me Microsoft Office is useless.
Seems to be very hard to install on other operating systems than Windows
(which I don't have) and there were a few things that I failed to do in
Word that I could do easily in OpenOffice.org Writer (this was in the Sun
era).
And LibreOffice is also useless to me since it destroys my spreadsheets, at
least one of them. Fortunately Apache OpenOffice fixed it for me, and after
fixing it, it worked well in both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice…
And Gnumeric is another useless program to me. It doesn't have any
features. It doesn't usually take very long before i need to do something
that Gnumeric can't do. And without macros… are you kidding?

If Microsoft Office works well for you, use it. Apache OpenOffice works
well for me (or at least better than anything else so far), so I keep using
it until I find something better. Simple as that. I don't write to
Microsoft's Office users mailing lists (if there are any) and tell them
their program sucks.



Johnny Rosenberg


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Re: OpenOffice 4.0.1

Johnny Rosenberg
2013/12/19 Johnny Rosenberg <[hidden email]>

> 2013/12/19 Stöver, Hans-Werner <[hidden email]>
>
> Hi,
>>
>> Openoffice was a very good and easy to use program.
>> With the last versions it got more and more useless.
>> I was using OpenOffice from the beginning in Hamburg for about more than
>> 14 years now.
>> But yet I deleted this for me useless program and I bought Microsoft
>> Office.
>> Microsoft is expensive, but Microsoft looks what the people need
>> and not what  the coder likes and puts inside.
>> Who made the decision to change the "save", "save to" and the "Open"
>> dialog?
>> Why must I click so many times to find my desktop for saving documents?
>> Why is the direct link in the saving dialog to "desktop", "network" and
>> "my documents" gone?
>>
>> It is just the same as Adobe it does with the Adobe reader.
>> In former times it was a very good and useful program.
>> Now it is big and slow and for presenting and reading PDFs it is useless.
>> The same happened to OpenOffice.
>> From a nice and good program you made a pack of shit.
>> So keep it and I will use Microsoft Office in future.
>>
>> In Germany we call this "Kundenverarschung"
>>
>> Only my minor opinion.
>>
>
> Different people, different opinions. To me Microsoft Office is useless.
> Seems to be very hard to install on other operating systems than Windows
> (which I don't have) and there were a few things that I failed to do in
> Word that I could do easily in OpenOffice.org Writer (this was in the Sun
> era).
> And LibreOffice is also useless to me since it destroys my spreadsheets,
> at least one of them. Fortunately Apache OpenOffice fixed it for me, and
> after fixing it, it worked well in both LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice…
> And Gnumeric is another useless program to me. It doesn't have any
> features. It doesn't usually take very long before i need to do something
> that Gnumeric can't do. And without macros… are you kidding?
>
> If Microsoft Office works well for you, use it. Apache OpenOffice works
> well for me (or at least better than anything else so far), so I keep using
> it until I find something better. Simple as that. I don't write to
> Microsoft's Office users mailing lists (if there are any) and tell them
> their program sucks.
>
>
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
>


By the way, isn't there a setting somewhere where you can choose between
Apache OpenOffice file browser and your operating system's file browser? Or
was that LibreOffice? I have used both of them a lot so I might be a little
confused there.


Johnny Rosenberg


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>> Regards
>> Hans Stöver
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Re: OpenOffice 4.0.1

James Knott
Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
> By the way, isn't there a setting somewhere where you can choose between
> Apache OpenOffice file browser and your operating system's file browser? Or
> was that LibreOffice? I have used both of them a lot so I might be a little
> confused there.

The old StarOffice incuded a browser, but I haven't heard of one in OO
or LO.


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Re: OpenOffice 4.0.1

Johnny Rosenberg
2013/12/19 James Knott <[hidden email]>

> Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
> > By the way, isn't there a setting somewhere where you can choose between
> > Apache OpenOffice file browser and your operating system's file browser?
> Or
> > was that LibreOffice? I have used both of them a lot so I might be a
> little
> > confused there.
>
> The old StarOffice incuded a browser, but I haven't heard of one in OO
> or LO.
>

I mean the FILE browser, for instance in the save and load dialogue. My
native language is not English, maybe I just picked the wrong word. Sorry.
So what did I mean? File manager? ”Explorer”?


Johnny Rosenberg


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Re: OpenOffice 4.0.1

John Meyer
Are you asking if you can ask OpenOffice to natively save in MSO format?



On 12/19/2013 11:47 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

> 2013/12/19 James Knott <[hidden email]>
>
>> Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
>>> By the way, isn't there a setting somewhere where you can choose between
>>> Apache OpenOffice file browser and your operating system's file browser?
>> Or
>>> was that LibreOffice? I have used both of them a lot so I might be a
>> little
>>> confused there.
>> The old StarOffice incuded a browser, but I haven't heard of one in OO
>> or LO.
>>
> I mean the FILE browser, for instance in the save and load dialogue. My
> native language is not English, maybe I just picked the wrong word. Sorry.
> So what did I mean? File manager? ”Explorer”?
>
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
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Carlo Strata
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... in LibreOffice (I translate from my it_IT GUI to en_GB):
menu -> Tools -> Options -> LibreOffice -> General -> Open/Save dialog
box -> Use LibreOffice dialog boxes

I suppose that Apache OpenOffice has still similar options... ;-)

Have a nice evening (even if you are a troll),

Carlo :-)

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Il 19/12/2013 19:47, Johnny Rosenberg ha scritto:

> 2013/12/19 James Knott <[hidden email]>
>
>> Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
>>> By the way, isn't there a setting somewhere where you can choose between
>>> Apache OpenOffice file browser and your operating system's file browser?
>> Or
>>> was that LibreOffice? I have used both of them a lot so I might be a
>> little
>>> confused there.
>> The old StarOffice incuded a browser, but I haven't heard of one in OO
>> or LO.
>>
> I mean the FILE browser, for instance in the save and load dialogue. My
> native language is not English, maybe I just picked the wrong word. Sorry.
> So what did I mean? File manager? ”Explorer”?
>
>
> Johnny Rosenberg
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Re: OpenOffice 4.0.1

Regina Henschel
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Hi,

Stöver, Hans-Werner schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> Openoffice was a very good and easy to use program.
> With the last versions it got more and more useless.
> I was using OpenOffice from the beginning in Hamburg for about more than 14 years now.
> But yet I deleted this for me useless program and I bought Microsoft Office.
> Microsoft is expensive, but Microsoft looks what the people need
> and not what  the coder likes and puts inside.

Do you remember the hot discussion about "Ribbon" or "not Ribbon"?

> Who made the decision to change the "save", "save to" and the "Open" dialog?

OpenOffice can use the dialog of the operating system or its own dialogs.
Which of the dialogs do you use? What is your operating system?

If you refer to its own dialogs, there is no change. These dialogs in
AOO4.0.1 are the same as in older versions. But you will surely have not
the same operating system than 14 years ago.

> Why must I click so many times to find my desktop for saving documents?
> Why is the direct link in the saving dialog to "desktop", "network" and "my documents" gone?

More details are needed, see above. Then we can surely help you to
customize OpenOffice to your needs.

Kind regards
Regina

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Joost Andrae-2
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Moin Hans-Werner,

if you want to use the native Windows file dialog which contains the
link to the Windows Desktop then you can configure it in menu item
/Tools/Options/OpenOffice/General.

Nochmal auf Deutsch:
Wenn Du den Speichern-Dialog suchst, welcher die Verknüpfung zum Windows
Desktop beinhaltet, dann solltest Du auf den nativen Windows Dateidialog
umschalten. Diesen kannst Du unter /Extras/Optionen/OpenOffice/Allgemein
einstellen. In diesem Dialog gibt es eine Checkbox zur Nutzung des
OpenOffice-Dialogs, welche Du einfach nur deaktivieren musst.

Gruß, Joost

Am 19.12.2013 09:29, schrieb Stöver, Hans-Werner:

> Hi,
>
> Openoffice was a very good and easy to use program.
> With the last versions it got more and more useless.
> I was using OpenOffice from the beginning in Hamburg for about more than 14 years now.
> But yet I deleted this for me useless program and I bought Microsoft Office.
> Microsoft is expensive, but Microsoft looks what the people need
> and not what  the coder likes and puts inside.
> Who made the decision to change the "save", "save to" and the "Open" dialog?
> Why must I click so many times to find my desktop for saving documents?
> Why is the direct link in the saving dialog to "desktop", "network" and "my documents" gone?
>
> It is just the same as Adobe it does with the Adobe reader.
> In former times it was a very good and useful program.
> Now it is big and slow and for presenting and reading PDFs it is useless.
> The same happened to OpenOffice.
>  From a nice and good program you made a pack of shit.
> So keep it and I will use Microsoft Office in future.
>
> In Germany we call this "Kundenverarschung"
>
> Only my minor opinion.
>
> Regards
> Hans Stöver
>



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