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Optical glitches in Ubuntu 20.04

Matthias Seidel
Hi all,

Ubuntu 20.04 is coming in April and AOO has some issues with the "new"
GNOME theme:

https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO420-Ubuntu2004.png

Until Ubuntu 18.04 it looked all right.

Any ideas?

Regards,

   Matthias



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Re: Optical glitches in Ubuntu 20.04

Matthias Seidel
It seems that nobody cares about how ugly AOO will look on Ubuntu 20.04?

Am 08.02.20 um 12:55 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

> Hi all,
>
> Ubuntu 20.04 is coming in April and AOO has some issues with the "new"
> GNOME theme:
>
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO420-Ubuntu2004.png
>
> Until Ubuntu 18.04 it looked all right.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias
>
>


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Re: Optical glitches in Ubuntu 20.04

Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:31:43 +0100
Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It seems that nobody cares about how ugly AOO will look on Ubuntu 20.04?
>
> Am 08.02.20 um 12:55 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Ubuntu 20.04 is coming in April and AOO has some issues with the "new"
> > GNOME theme:
> >
> > https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO420-Ubuntu2004.png
> >
> > Until Ubuntu 18.04 it looked all right.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >    Matthias

On Xubuntu 20.04 (out of the box install) with today's updates (2020-02-25) A00 4.5.0 of 2020-02-16_04:12:23 that sidebar looks good - positioning of the various panels is correct.

On Xubuntu 18.04.4 (with today's updates), AOO 420m2(Build:9821) 2020-02-16_12:52:4 that sidebar looks good also.

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Re: Optical glitches in Ubuntu 20.04

Matthias Seidel
Hi Rory,

Am 25.02.20 um 18:11 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

> On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:31:43 +0100
> Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> It seems that nobody cares about how ugly AOO will look on Ubuntu 20.04?
>>
>> Am 08.02.20 um 12:55 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Ubuntu 20.04 is coming in April and AOO has some issues with the "new"
>>> GNOME theme:
>>>
>>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO420-Ubuntu2004.png
>>>
>>> Until Ubuntu 18.04 it looked all right.
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>    Matthias
> On Xubuntu 20.04 (out of the box install) with today's updates (2020-02-25) A00 4.5.0 of 2020-02-16_04:12:23 that sidebar looks good - positioning of the various panels is correct.
>
> On Xubuntu 18.04.4 (with today's updates), AOO 420m2(Build:9821) 2020-02-16_12:52:4 that sidebar looks good also.
Yes, but I am talking about Ubuntu here, not Xubuntu... The problems are
with GNOME, not with XFCE.

AOO on Ubuntu 18.04 still looks "normal". Ubuntu 20.04 is the next LTS
version coming in April, so people upgrading from 18.04 to 20.04 will be
disappointed.

Regards,

   Matthias

>
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Re: Optical glitches in Ubuntu 20.04

Rory O'Farrell
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 18:18:14 +0100
Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Rory,
>
> Am 25.02.20 um 18:11 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:31:43 +0100
> > Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> It seems that nobody cares about how ugly AOO will look on Ubuntu 20.04?
> >>
> >> Am 08.02.20 um 12:55 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Ubuntu 20.04 is coming in April and AOO has some issues with the "new"
> >>> GNOME theme:
> >>>
> >>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO420-Ubuntu2004.png
> >>>
> >>> Until Ubuntu 18.04 it looked all right.
> >>>
> >>> Any ideas?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>    Matthias
> > On Xubuntu 20.04 (out of the box install) with today's updates (2020-02-25) A00 4.5.0 of 2020-02-16_04:12:23 that sidebar looks good - positioning of the various panels is correct.
> >
> > On Xubuntu 18.04.4 (with today's updates), AOO 420m2(Build:9821) 2020-02-16_12:52:4 that sidebar looks good also.
>
> Yes, but I am talking about Ubuntu here, not Xubuntu... The problems are
> with GNOME, not with XFCE.
>
> AOO on Ubuntu 18.04 still looks "normal". Ubuntu 20.04 is the next LTS
> version coming in April, so people upgrading from 18.04 to 20.04 will be
> disappointed.
>
> Regards,
>
>    Matthias

It is good to check that a problem is isolated to a particular operating system, which is why I reported on the two Xubuntu versions.

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Re: Optical glitches in Ubuntu 20.04

Kay Schenk-2
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Hi Matthias, Rory--

My Gnome theme, Adwaita, on CentOS 7 is problematic with some spacing if
you want to know the truth. Just curious on your image -- are you
referring to the cramped text under the bullet boxes? What Gnome version
and theme are being used?

On 2/25/20 9:18 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

> Hi Rory,
>
> Am 25.02.20 um 18:11 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:31:43 +0100
>> Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> It seems that nobody cares about how ugly AOO will look on Ubuntu 20.04?
>>>
>>> Am 08.02.20 um 12:55 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Ubuntu 20.04 is coming in April and AOO has some issues with the "new"
>>>> GNOME theme:
>>>>
>>>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO420-Ubuntu2004.png
>>>>
>>>> Until Ubuntu 18.04 it looked all right.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>     Matthias
>> On Xubuntu 20.04 (out of the box install) with today's updates (2020-02-25) A00 4.5.0 of 2020-02-16_04:12:23 that sidebar looks good - positioning of the various panels is correct.
>>
>> On Xubuntu 18.04.4 (with today's updates), AOO 420m2(Build:9821) 2020-02-16_12:52:4 that sidebar looks good also.
> Yes, but I am talking about Ubuntu here, not Xubuntu... The problems are
> with GNOME, not with XFCE.
>
> AOO on Ubuntu 18.04 still looks "normal". Ubuntu 20.04 is the next LTS
> version coming in April, so people upgrading from 18.04 to 20.04 will be
> disappointed.
>
> Regards,
>
>     Matthias
>
>>   --
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Re: Optical glitches in Ubuntu 20.04

Matthias Seidel
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Hi Rory,

Am 25.02.20 um 18:25 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

> On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 18:18:14 +0100
> Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rory,
>>
>> Am 25.02.20 um 18:11 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:31:43 +0100
>>> Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems that nobody cares about how ugly AOO will look on Ubuntu 20.04?
>>>>
>>>> Am 08.02.20 um 12:55 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ubuntu 20.04 is coming in April and AOO has some issues with the "new"
>>>>> GNOME theme:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO420-Ubuntu2004.png
>>>>>
>>>>> Until Ubuntu 18.04 it looked all right.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>    Matthias
>>> On Xubuntu 20.04 (out of the box install) with today's updates (2020-02-25) A00 4.5.0 of 2020-02-16_04:12:23 that sidebar looks good - positioning of the various panels is correct.
>>>
>>> On Xubuntu 18.04.4 (with today's updates), AOO 420m2(Build:9821) 2020-02-16_12:52:4 that sidebar looks good also.
>> Yes, but I am talking about Ubuntu here, not Xubuntu... The problems are
>> with GNOME, not with XFCE.
>>
>> AOO on Ubuntu 18.04 still looks "normal". Ubuntu 20.04 is the next LTS
>> version coming in April, so people upgrading from 18.04 to 20.04 will be
>> disappointed.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>    Matthias
> It is good to check that a problem is isolated to a particular operating system, which is why I reported on the two Xubuntu versions.
Thanks, I also did that before...

That's why I wrote "issues with the "new" GNOME theme" in my original post.

Matthias

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Re: Optical glitches in Ubuntu 20.04

Matthias Seidel
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Hi Kay,

Am 25.02.20 um 18:28 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> Hi Matthias, Rory--
>
> My Gnome theme, Adwaita, on CentOS 7 is problematic with some spacing
> if you want to know the truth.
I switched to Adwaita for testing on Ubuntu 20.04 and that reduces some
problems with the scroll bars, but not with the sidebar.
> Just curious on your image -- are you referring to the cramped text
> under the bullet boxes?
The problem is that the boxes are way too big and overlapping. Looks
like some vertical scaling is used (also for menu/toolbars).
> What Gnome version and theme are being used?

My Ubuntu 20.04 (pre-release) is at GNOME 3.34.2 and the theme Canonical
uses is called "Yaru".

Personally, I don't like GNOME (and Yaru) at all, but that is what users
installing Ubuntu 20.04 get out of the box. ;-)

Regards,

   Matthias

>
> On 2/25/20 9:18 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Hi Rory,
>>
>> Am 25.02.20 um 18:11 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:31:43 +0100
>>> Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems that nobody cares about how ugly AOO will look on Ubuntu
>>>> 20.04?
>>>>
>>>> Am 08.02.20 um 12:55 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ubuntu 20.04 is coming in April and AOO has some issues with the
>>>>> "new"
>>>>> GNOME theme:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO420-Ubuntu2004.png
>>>>>
>>>>> Until Ubuntu 18.04 it looked all right.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>     Matthias
>>> On Xubuntu 20.04 (out of the box install) with today's updates
>>> (2020-02-25) A00 4.5.0 of 2020-02-16_04:12:23 that sidebar looks
>>> good - positioning of the various panels is correct.
>>>
>>> On Xubuntu 18.04.4 (with today's updates), AOO 420m2(Build:9821)
>>> 2020-02-16_12:52:4 that sidebar looks good also.
>> Yes, but I am talking about Ubuntu here, not Xubuntu... The problems are
>> with GNOME, not with XFCE.
>>
>> AOO on Ubuntu 18.04 still looks "normal". Ubuntu 20.04 is the next LTS
>> version coming in April, so people upgrading from 18.04 to 20.04 will be
>> disappointed.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>     Matthias
>>
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Re: Optical glitches in Ubuntu 20.04

Kay Schenk-2

On 2/25/20 10:06 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:

> Hi Kay,
>
> Am 25.02.20 um 18:28 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>> Hi Matthias, Rory--
>>
>> My Gnome theme, Adwaita, on CentOS 7 is problematic with some spacing
>> if you want to know the truth.
> I switched to Adwaita for testing on Ubuntu 20.04 and that reduces some
> problems with the scroll bars, but not with the sidebar.
>> Just curious on your image -- are you referring to the cramped text
>> under the bullet boxes?
> The problem is that the boxes are way too big and overlapping. Looks
> like some vertical scaling is used (also for menu/toolbars).

Honestly, it doesn't look all that bad to me. Yet again, different
themes/scaling issues I guess.

>> What Gnome version and theme are being used?
> My Ubuntu 20.04 (pre-release) is at GNOME 3.34.2 and the theme Canonical
> uses is called "Yaru".
>
> Personally, I don't like GNOME (and Yaru) at all, but that is what users
> installing Ubuntu 20.04 get out of the box. ;-)

I understand. I'm not sure how to reconcile the Gnome version and
default theme used with the build with what Linux users will see. We
should at least provide information on that to them. Things may vary
quite a bit from Gnome versions and theme used.

>
> Regards,
>
>     Matthias
>
>> On 2/25/20 9:18 AM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
>>> Hi Rory,
>>>
>>> Am 25.02.20 um 18:11 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>>> On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:31:43 +0100
>>>> Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It seems that nobody cares about how ugly AOO will look on Ubuntu
>>>>> 20.04?
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 08.02.20 um 12:55 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ubuntu 20.04 is coming in April and AOO has some issues with the
>>>>>> "new"
>>>>>> GNOME theme:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO420-Ubuntu2004.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Until Ubuntu 18.04 it looked all right.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Matthias
>>>> On Xubuntu 20.04 (out of the box install) with today's updates
>>>> (2020-02-25) A00 4.5.0 of 2020-02-16_04:12:23 that sidebar looks
>>>> good - positioning of the various panels is correct.
>>>>
>>>> On Xubuntu 18.04.4 (with today's updates), AOO 420m2(Build:9821)
>>>> 2020-02-16_12:52:4 that sidebar looks good also.
>>> Yes, but I am talking about Ubuntu here, not Xubuntu... The problems are
>>> with GNOME, not with XFCE.
>>>
>>> AOO on Ubuntu 18.04 still looks "normal". Ubuntu 20.04 is the next LTS
>>> version coming in April, so people upgrading from 18.04 to 20.04 will be
>>> disappointed.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>      Matthias
>>>
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