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Report from OpenRheinRuhr 2018 convention

Peter Kovacs-3
Hi all,

The OpenRheinRuhr [0] event is a local convention around open source
software in Germany. The program is a mix of talks and booth
presentations. The event took place this year on the 3rd and 4th November.

Our booth team usually visits this event every year. This year has been
special. On initiative of Uwe Altmann from the LibreOffice Community the
booth has been shared between Apache Open Office, EGroupware and
LibreOffice. (sorted in alphabetical order) The booth teams have a long
tradition to meet on events, and this year is the first official
collaboration between all 3 projects.

For Apache OpenOffice have represented by our volunteers Mechtilde,
Michaela und Michael Stehmann. LibreOffice has been represented by
Regina Henschel and Uwe Altmann. EGroupware have been represented by
Stefan. The booth have been visited by various people known in the
german Office Community. From our dev community Matthias Seidel and I
visited on Sunday. The atmosphere on the common booth has been relaxed
and coined by friendship.

Uwe Altman held a talk on the advantages of the ODF format on Saturday,
while Stefan talked about LibreOfficeOnline in EGroupware.

Because of a no show for a talk around LibreOffice, from an unknown
speaker to everyone present at the time at the booth, Uwe Altmann
invited us to share the replacement talk, which Michael and I gladly
accepted. Michael talked about the history of OpenOffice, I said one or
2 sentence about our presence situation, while Uwe Altmann and Regina
Henschel represented the LibreOffice side. In the second part of the
talk we improvised a short writer workshop with Regina Henschel as main
talker supported by the rest of us. Uwe Altmann finished the talk with a
short compare between ODF and OOXML.

The composed booth teams agreed that the cooperation and collaboration
of all three teams (LibreOffice, EGroupware and Apache OpenOffice
(reversed alphabetical order ;) )) were a success and that this should
be continued and extended if possible. In total we all have left the
event with the feeling that bonds have been strengthened.


This is a rough conversion from Michael's german report [1]. The Report
of Uwe Altmann on the german LibreOffice List [ 2]. Both reports are in
german (of course).


All the best

Peter Kovacs

[0] https://openrheinruhr.de/

[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9a7fb9d2b666d2d06fb684aa0cb3bb61dc53c43ae620af79f9b8e674@%3Cdev-de.openoffice.apache.org%3E

[2]  https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/de/discuss/msg22530.html



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Re: Report from OpenRheinRuhr 2018 convention

Pedro Lino-3
Hi Peter, all

Thank you for sharing this report.
I'm happy to read that there is collaboration between the two projects (at least on a local scale)
This should be the rule, not the exception...

ODF adoption is indeed very important, especially now that Microsoft is making their file format not fully compatible even with previous versions of their own Office Suite.

I believe that more collaboration would benefit all users (present and future). It is a shame that the code can not be shared both ways.

Best,
Pedro

> On November 7, 2018 at 4:34 AM Peter Kovacs <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> The OpenRheinRuhr [0] event is a local convention around open source
> software in Germany. The program is a mix of talks and booth
> presentations. The event took place this year on the 3rd and 4th November.
>
> Our booth team usually visits this event every year. This year has been
> special. On initiative of Uwe Altmann from the LibreOffice Community the
> booth has been shared between Apache Open Office, EGroupware and
> LibreOffice. (sorted in alphabetical order) The booth teams have a long
> tradition to meet on events, and this year is the first official
> collaboration between all 3 projects.
>
> For Apache OpenOffice have represented by our volunteers Mechtilde,
> Michaela und Michael Stehmann. LibreOffice has been represented by
> Regina Henschel and Uwe Altmann. EGroupware have been represented by
> Stefan. The booth have been visited by various people known in the
> german Office Community. From our dev community Matthias Seidel and I
> visited on Sunday. The atmosphere on the common booth has been relaxed
> and coined by friendship.
>
> Uwe Altman held a talk on the advantages of the ODF format on Saturday,
> while Stefan talked about LibreOfficeOnline in EGroupware.
>
> Because of a no show for a talk around LibreOffice, from an unknown
> speaker to everyone present at the time at the booth, Uwe Altmann
> invited us to share the replacement talk, which Michael and I gladly
> accepted. Michael talked about the history of OpenOffice, I said one or
> 2 sentence about our presence situation, while Uwe Altmann and Regina
> Henschel represented the LibreOffice side. In the second part of the
> talk we improvised a short writer workshop with Regina Henschel as main
> talker supported by the rest of us. Uwe Altmann finished the talk with a
> short compare between ODF and OOXML.
>
> The composed booth teams agreed that the cooperation and collaboration
> of all three teams (LibreOffice, EGroupware and Apache OpenOffice
> (reversed alphabetical order ;) )) were a success and that this should
> be continued and extended if possible. In total we all have left the
> event with the feeling that bonds have been strengthened.
>
>
> This is a rough conversion from Michael's german report [1]. The Report
> of Uwe Altmann on the german LibreOffice List [ 2]. Both reports are in
> german (of course).
>
>
> All the best
>
> Peter Kovacs
>
> [0] https://openrheinruhr.de/
>
> [1]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/9a7fb9d2b666d2d06fb684aa0cb3bb61dc53c43ae620af79f9b8e674@%3Cdev-de.openoffice.apache.org%3E
>
> [2]  https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/de/discuss/msg22530.html
>
>
>
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RE: Report from OpenRheinRuhr 2018 convention

Jörg Schmidt-2
Hello,

> From: Pedro Lino [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2018 11:36 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: Report from OpenRheinRuhr 2018 convention

> Thank you for sharing this report.
> I'm happy to read that there is collaboration between the two
> projects (at least on a local scale)
> This should be the rule, not the exception...

You're right about that.

Unfortunately, there are still forces at LO/TDF that think there should be no two Office projects next to each other, but one must defeat the other.
These are the same people who don't want to see that AOO is a free project and not under the direction of Oracle.
Today AOO is much more independent than LO, because the direction at LO is given by companies and not the community in the narrower sense.

> It is a shame that the code can not be
> shared both ways.

But it's also tactics of the TDF. It wouldn't be a problem in practice if all LO developers would put their code under an AOO compatible license.


greetings,
Jörg


Excuse these somewhat unpleasant words, but I think you have to, in the name of truthfulness, sometimes say things that are true.
I spent many years at OOo working with people who later switched to LO. It was some (by far not all) of these people who confused the common idea of free software with a private war against Oracle and equated the OpenOffice community members with Oracle.


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