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George Karalis

Hello everyone,

Since the 4.1.6 release is out, I was thinking for a small update at the openoffice.org homepage
to make the end users onboarding a little bit easier. I ‘ve coded a little sample that you can see
bellow, so if you are ok with a refresh on the homepage I can integrate the code within the
current website repository.

Regards,
George

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Re: Small website refresh

Pedro Lino-3
As a user, a Big +1

Very nice layout!

Best,
Pedro
On November 19, 2018 at 12:04 PM George Karalis <[hidden email]> wrote:


Hello everyone,

Since the 4.1.6 release is out, I was thinking for a small update at the openoffice.org homepage
to make the end users onboarding a little bit easier. I ‘ve coded a little sample that you can see
bellow, so if you are ok with a refresh on the homepage I can integrate the code within the
current website repository.

Regards,
George


 
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Re: Small website refresh

George Karalis
Hello,

I have redesigned and implemented the new homepage in code. I have also setup the
local web development environment and integrated the code. If anyone likes to view
the redesigned homepage I can provide a static html, that you can view in your browser,
to be reviewed etc.

If you are up for a refresh, I want to know how could i send the updated repository,
or if I could have commit access to the user end portal.

Also, having worked with the website's build process, it’s a little bit counterintuitive,
especially for modern web development, so I propose to build openoffice.org using
a static site generator. I recommend Hugo <https://gohugo.io/>. I can take this as a long project, as in a
few weeks I am probably finishing with the MSVC update.

Thanks,
George


> On 19 Nov 2018, at 14:30, Pedro Lino <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> As a user, a Big +1
>
> Very nice layout!
>
> Best,
> Pedro
>> On November 19, 2018 at 12:04 PM George Karalis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> Since the 4.1.6 release is out, I was thinking for a small update at the openoffice.org <http://openoffice.org/> homepage
>> to make the end users onboarding a little bit easier. I ‘ve coded a little sample that you can see
>> bellow, so if you are ok with a refresh on the homepage I can integrate the code within the
>> current website repository.
>>
>> Regards,
>> George
>>
>> <screenshot_web.PNG>
>
>  

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Re: Small website refresh

Peter Kovacs-3
Nice job.

I am not sure if I am fully remeber the Page.

We used to use a CMS system from Apache that is unmaintained. Infra
recommended that we move away from it.

This seems a good point to switch the workflow we use? Maybe trying to
move towards static Pages created with Hugo?

This would be worth a look.


About MSVC, where can I see your work?- Is it maybe possible to create a
github repository where you upload your changes?

I am curious on the nature of changes needed to be done.


Please keep up your engagement. This is appreciated.


All the best

Peter


On 20.11.18 17:59, George Karalis wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have redesigned and implemented the new homepage in code. I have also setup the
> local web development environment and integrated the code. If anyone likes to view
> the redesigned homepage I can provide a static html, that you can view in your browser,
> to be reviewed etc.
>
> If you are up for a refresh, I want to know how could i send the updated repository,
> or if I could have commit access to the user end portal.
>
> Also, having worked with the website's build process, it’s a little bit counterintuitive,
> especially for modern web development, so I propose to build openoffice.org using
> a static site generator. I recommend Hugo <https://gohugo.io/>. I can take this as a long project, as in a
> few weeks I am probably finishing with the MSVC update.
>
> Thanks,
> George
>
>
>> On 19 Nov 2018, at 14:30, Pedro Lino <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> As a user, a Big +1
>>
>> Very nice layout!
>>
>> Best,
>> Pedro
>>> On November 19, 2018 at 12:04 PM George Karalis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> Since the 4.1.6 release is out, I was thinking for a small update at the openoffice.org <http://openoffice.org/> homepage
>>> to make the end users onboarding a little bit easier. I ‘ve coded a little sample that you can see
>>> bellow, so if you are ok with a refresh on the homepage I can integrate the code within the
>>> current website repository.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> George
>>>
>>> <screenshot_web.PNG>
>>  
>


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Re: Small website refresh

George Karalis
https://thorbust.github.io/openoffice-website/ <https://thorbust.github.io/openoffice-website/>

This is the updated homepage. I ‘d love to hear your feedback and if you feel like it
we can move it to production.

As for the MSVC I will send sometime next week the work I have done in
the MSVC thread.

Regards,
George



> On 22 Nov 2018, at 11:52, Peter Kovacs <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Nice job.
>
> I am not sure if I am fully remeber the Page.
>
> We used to use a CMS system from Apache that is unmaintained. Infra
> recommended that we move away from it.
>
> This seems a good point to switch the workflow we use? Maybe trying to
> move towards static Pages created with Hugo?
>
> This would be worth a look.
>
>
> About MSVC, where can I see your work?- Is it maybe possible to create a
> github repository where you upload your changes?
>
> I am curious on the nature of changes needed to be done.
>
>
> Please keep up your engagement. This is appreciated.
>
>
> All the best
>
> Peter
>
>
> On 20.11.18 17:59, George Karalis wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have redesigned and implemented the new homepage in code. I have also setup the
>> local web development environment and integrated the code. If anyone likes to view
>> the redesigned homepage I can provide a static html, that you can view in your browser,
>> to be reviewed etc.
>>
>> If you are up for a refresh, I want to know how could i send the updated repository,
>> or if I could have commit access to the user end portal.
>>
>> Also, having worked with the website's build process, it’s a little bit counterintuitive,
>> especially for modern web development, so I propose to build openoffice.org using
>> a static site generator. I recommend Hugo <https://gohugo.io/>. I can take this as a long project, as in a
>> few weeks I am probably finishing with the MSVC update.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> George
>>
>>
>>> On 19 Nov 2018, at 14:30, Pedro Lino <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> As a user, a Big +1
>>>
>>> Very nice layout!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Pedro
>>>> On November 19, 2018 at 12:04 PM George Karalis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Since the 4.1.6 release is out, I was thinking for a small update at the openoffice.org <http://openoffice.org/> homepage
>>>> to make the end users onboarding a little bit easier. I ‘ve coded a little sample that you can see
>>>> bellow, so if you are ok with a refresh on the homepage I can integrate the code within the
>>>> current website repository.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> George
>>>>
>>>> <screenshot_web.PNG>
>>>
>>
>
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Re: Small website refresh

F C. Costero
I like the update. I am puzzled by the three different Download
buttons/links. The one at the top right says Download, there is a central
one for Download For Windows, and a small link under that that says Other
Platforms. All three lead to the standard download page where the OS is
detected automatically. On this Linux Mint system I am using, the Download
For Windows button results in me being offered the Linux 64 bit RPM (RPM is
the wrong choice, but that is a different problem). Why is the button
labeled as a Windows download?
Please keep this effort going!
Francis

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 2:46 AM George Karalis <[hidden email]> wrote:

> https://thorbust.github.io/openoffice-website/ <
> https://thorbust.github.io/openoffice-website/>
>
> This is the updated homepage. I ‘d love to hear your feedback and if you
> feel like it
> we can move it to production.
>
> As for the MSVC I will send sometime next week the work I have done in
> the MSVC thread.
>
> Regards,
> George
>
>
>
> > On 22 Nov 2018, at 11:52, Peter Kovacs <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Nice job.
> >
> > I am not sure if I am fully remeber the Page.
> >
> > We used to use a CMS system from Apache that is unmaintained. Infra
> > recommended that we move away from it.
> >
> > This seems a good point to switch the workflow we use? Maybe trying to
> > move towards static Pages created with Hugo?
> >
> > This would be worth a look.
> >
> >
> > About MSVC, where can I see your work?- Is it maybe possible to create a
> > github repository where you upload your changes?
> >
> > I am curious on the nature of changes needed to be done.
> >
> >
> > Please keep up your engagement. This is appreciated.
> >
> >
> > All the best
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > On 20.11.18 17:59, George Karalis wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I have redesigned and implemented the new homepage in code. I have also
> setup the
> >> local web development environment and integrated the code. If anyone
> likes to view
> >> the redesigned homepage I can provide a static html, that you can view
> in your browser,
> >> to be reviewed etc.
> >>
> >> If you are up for a refresh, I want to know how could i send the
> updated repository,
> >> or if I could have commit access to the user end portal.
> >>
> >> Also, having worked with the website's build process, it’s a little bit
> counterintuitive,
> >> especially for modern web development, so I propose to build
> openoffice.org using
> >> a static site generator. I recommend Hugo <https://gohugo.io/>. I can
> take this as a long project, as in a
> >> few weeks I am probably finishing with the MSVC update.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> George
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 19 Nov 2018, at 14:30, Pedro Lino <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As a user, a Big +1
> >>>
> >>> Very nice layout!
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> Pedro
> >>>> On November 19, 2018 at 12:04 PM George Karalis <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>> Since the 4.1.6 release is out, I was thinking for a small update at
> the openoffice.org <http://openoffice.org/> homepage
> >>>> to make the end users onboarding a little bit easier. I ‘ve coded a
> little sample that you can see
> >>>> bellow, so if you are ok with a refresh on the homepage I can
> integrate the code within the
> >>>> current website repository.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> George
> >>>>
> >>>> <screenshot_web.PNG>
> >>>
> >>
> >
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Re: Small website refresh

George Karalis
Hello Francis,

Keep in mind that this is just a prototype to see if you like the overall look and feel
that I designed. I just wanted to illustrate my idea and what’s better than a fully
functional prototype.

As for the three download buttons, well there's one at the header which will be
visible on all pages that will serve as a call to action button for users to download
OpenOffice(which will lead at the downloads page). The homepage’s hero download
button will serve as a quick download button, so the user downloads the correct
OpenOffice for his/hers system immediately without having to go to the downloads
page(this is not yet fully implemented, so you only see the download for windows,
which for the purpose of the prototype leads again to the downloads page). The
other releases button serves the purpose, that if a user for example is on a windows
machine and wants to download a linux flavour of OpenOffice, to install later on
another linux computer, goes to a page that lists all OpenOffices builds. As i
couldn't find such a page, in the original website I again redirected to the downloads
page(could also lead to the sourceforge page for now). As for the wrong choice
you've been offered that is true a different thing that affects the current downloads
page.

All I am asking now is if I could have access to a staging environment(maybe in
another url, as I don't want to mess with your current staging site, as  you may want
to make changes there), so I can make those changes and having a fully working and
tested homepage within this week, that we can move live.

Thanks in advance,
George


> On 24 Nov 2018, at 06:25, F C. Costero <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I like the update. I am puzzled by the three different Download
> buttons/links. The one at the top right says Download, there is a central
> one for Download For Windows, and a small link under that that says Other
> Platforms. All three lead to the standard download page where the OS is
> detected automatically. On this Linux Mint system I am using, the Download
> For Windows button results in me being offered the Linux 64 bit RPM (RPM is
> the wrong choice, but that is a different problem). Why is the button
> labeled as a Windows download?
> Please keep this effort going!
> Francis
>
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 2:46 AM George Karalis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> https://thorbust.github.io/openoffice-website/ <
>> https://thorbust.github.io/openoffice-website/>
>>
>> This is the updated homepage. I ‘d love to hear your feedback and if you
>> feel like it
>> we can move it to production.
>>
>> As for the MSVC I will send sometime next week the work I have done in
>> the MSVC thread.
>>
>> Regards,
>> George
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 22 Nov 2018, at 11:52, Peter Kovacs <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice job.
>>>
>>> I am not sure if I am fully remeber the Page.
>>>
>>> We used to use a CMS system from Apache that is unmaintained. Infra
>>> recommended that we move away from it.
>>>
>>> This seems a good point to switch the workflow we use? Maybe trying to
>>> move towards static Pages created with Hugo?
>>>
>>> This would be worth a look.
>>>
>>>
>>> About MSVC, where can I see your work?- Is it maybe possible to create a
>>> github repository where you upload your changes?
>>>
>>> I am curious on the nature of changes needed to be done.
>>>
>>>
>>> Please keep up your engagement. This is appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>> On 20.11.18 17:59, George Karalis wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I have redesigned and implemented the new homepage in code. I have also
>> setup the
>>>> local web development environment and integrated the code. If anyone
>> likes to view
>>>> the redesigned homepage I can provide a static html, that you can view
>> in your browser,
>>>> to be reviewed etc.
>>>>
>>>> If you are up for a refresh, I want to know how could i send the
>> updated repository,
>>>> or if I could have commit access to the user end portal.
>>>>
>>>> Also, having worked with the website's build process, it’s a little bit
>> counterintuitive,
>>>> especially for modern web development, so I propose to build
>> openoffice.org using
>>>> a static site generator. I recommend Hugo <https://gohugo.io/>. I can
>> take this as a long project, as in a
>>>> few weeks I am probably finishing with the MSVC update.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> George
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 19 Nov 2018, at 14:30, Pedro Lino <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> As a user, a Big +1
>>>>>
>>>>> Very nice layout!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Pedro
>>>>>> On November 19, 2018 at 12:04 PM George Karalis <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since the 4.1.6 release is out, I was thinking for a small update at
>> the openoffice.org <http://openoffice.org/> homepage
>>>>>> to make the end users onboarding a little bit easier. I ‘ve coded a
>> little sample that you can see
>>>>>> bellow, so if you are ok with a refresh on the homepage I can
>> integrate the code within the
>>>>>> current website repository.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> George
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <screenshot_web.PNG>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Small website refresh

Andrea Pescetti-2
George Karalis wrote:
> All I am asking now is if I could have access to a staging environment(maybe in
> another url, as I don't want to mess with your current staging site, as  you may want
> to make changes there), so I can make those changes and having a fully working and
> tested homepage within this week, that we can move live.

Thanks, George! As you've probably seen from other conversations, we are
on a very tight schedule at the moment since we need to move our old
sites to new servers this week; this is why nobody had the time to help
you with the site.

Since I see it's just HTML and assets, we could try hosting it at
http://www.openoffice.org/new
or similar, provided you use relative URLs for assets.

You will need some patience; I like your draft more than the current
homepage and I think it undeniably looks more modern, but we'll have to
feature-match the current home (e.g., it suggests the native-lang site
when available) and some of the choices we had made, like not to have a
prominent Donate button, reflected mailing list discussions back at the
time. Everything can be reversed, but it needs to go through a
discussion. Fortunately, discussions on this list are now much shorter
and to-the-point than they used to be a few years ago, so I hope we can
have the new homepage online relatively soon.

Next step: if you manage to adapt the JS so that it suggests the
native-lang site correctly, I can then put it at a convenience URL for
testing (or we can continue to review it on Github). Some of us will
very likely be busy with the Wiki and Forum upgrades this week, but some
feedback should come.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: Small website refresh

Dave Fisher
Hi George,

I echo what Andrea writes. I am currently migrating the OpenOffice forums to new VMs and then need to plan additional upgrades.

I was the one who did the bulk of the Apache CMS work with OpenOffice.org and understand exactly how the pages are built from templates and css. When I have more time in December I can look at how to convert the pages. We’ve kept all language sites including over 100 languages in case a community ever returns. (Mongolian has some nice Yurt icons.)

Files are either in the original pre-Apache html or in Markdown.

We should evaluate whatever generation system we decide to use to figure out the best way to preserve as much as possible.

You might get a handle on the structure from making use of the instructions on this page. [1]

Regards,
Dave

[1] https://openoffice.apache.org/website-local.html#using-the-apache-cms-bookmarklet-simpler-method


> On Nov 27, 2018, at 12:29 PM, Andrea Pescetti <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> George Karalis wrote:
>> All I am asking now is if I could have access to a staging environment(maybe in
>> another url, as I don't want to mess with your current staging site, as  you may want
>> to make changes there), so I can make those changes and having a fully working and
>> tested homepage within this week, that we can move live.
>
> Thanks, George! As you've probably seen from other conversations, we are on a very tight schedule at the moment since we need to move our old sites to new servers this week; this is why nobody had the time to help you with the site.
>
> Since I see it's just HTML and assets, we could try hosting it at
> http://www.openoffice.org/new
> or similar, provided you use relative URLs for assets.
>
> You will need some patience; I like your draft more than the current homepage and I think it undeniably looks more modern, but we'll have to feature-match the current home (e.g., it suggests the native-lang site when available) and some of the choices we had made, like not to have a prominent Donate button, reflected mailing list discussions back at the time. Everything can be reversed, but it needs to go through a discussion. Fortunately, discussions on this list are now much shorter and to-the-point than they used to be a few years ago, so I hope we can have the new homepage online relatively soon.
>
> Next step: if you manage to adapt the JS so that it suggests the native-lang site correctly, I can then put it at a convenience URL for testing (or we can continue to review it on Github). Some of us will very likely be busy with the Wiki and Forum upgrades this week, but some feedback should come.
>
> Regards,
>  Andrea.
>
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