URGENT: Need to build new version based on 4.1.4

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 19:20:30 +0100
Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
> Am 23.11.2017 um 19:02 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> > On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 18:43:13 +0100
> > Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Rory,
> >>
> >> Am 23.11.2017 um 18:31 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> >>> I have downloaded and install AO0 4.2.0 for linux from
> >>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US_2017-11-23_04%3A16%3A31_1816101.tar.gz
> >>>
> >>> When opening a Writer file from the splash screen I get a "general error" message, then the file opens.  Starting AOO 4.2.0 from a terminal gives the message
> >>> ** (soffice:2353): WARNING **: Unknown type: GailWindow
> >>> The file then opens; it will accept a simple edit, and close correctly.
> >> That sounds like this issue:
> >> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127315
> >>
> >> It would be interesting if it only affects builds based on Ubuntu
> >> (14.04). Can someone build 4.2.0 on CentOS under release conditions?
> >>
> >> Regards, Matthias
> >>
> >> BTW: You are opening from the Start Center, not from the Splash Screen?
> >>
> >>> Further information on Writer (mis)behaviour (if any) as I run into it.  However, little time at present, but I'll continue to use AOO 4.2.0
> >>>
> >>
> > The "GailWindow" message is from opening in a Terminal, the "General error" message is from opening from either the Splash Screen or from double clicking an .odt file. If I start Writer directly, then pick a file off Recent Documents, I get the "general error" message; click on this and the file opens correctly.
>
> This is the Splash Screen:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/default_images/introabout/intro.png
>
> This is the Start Center:
>
> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/Start%20Center%20+%20ASF%20logo.png
>
> ;-)
>
> > BTW, I am running on Xubuntu 64 bit 16.04.03 (fully updated)
>
>

OK, then where I said "Splash Screen", I meant "Start Center".  

In all cases I have ever seen the Splash Screen immediately transitions to the Start Center screen; on Forum we usually refer to the "Start Center" as the Splash Screen.


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[Matthias Seidel]

Am 23.11.2017 um 19:30 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:

> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 19:20:30 +0100
> Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 23.11.2017 um 19:02 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>> On Thu, 23 Nov 2017 18:43:13 +0100
>>> Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>
>>>> Am 23.11.2017 um 18:31 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>>>> I have downloaded and install AO0 4.2.0 for linux from
>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US_2017-11-23_04%3A16%3A31_1816101.tar.gz
>>>>>
>>>>> When opening a Writer file from the splash screen I get a "general error" message, then the file opens.  Starting AOO 4.2.0 from a terminal gives the message
>>>>> ** (soffice:2353): WARNING **: Unknown type: GailWindow
>>>>> The file then opens; it will accept a simple edit, and close correctly.
>>>> That sounds like this issue:
>>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127315
>>>>
>>>> It would be interesting if it only affects builds based on Ubuntu
>>>> (14.04). Can someone build 4.2.0 on CentOS under release conditions?
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Matthias
>>>>
>>>> BTW: You are opening from the Start Center, not from the Splash Screen?
>>>>
>>>>> Further information on Writer (mis)behaviour (if any) as I run into it.  However, little time at present, but I'll continue to use AOO 4.2.0
>>>>>
>>> The "GailWindow" message is from opening in a Terminal, the "General error" message is from opening from either the Splash Screen or from double clicking an .odt file. If I start Writer directly, then pick a file off Recent Documents, I get the "general error" message; click on this and the file opens correctly.
>> This is the Splash Screen:
>>
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/default_images/introabout/intro.png
>>
>> This is the Start Center:
>>
>> https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/Start%20Center%20+%20ASF%20logo.png
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>>> BTW, I am running on Xubuntu 64 bit 16.04.03 (fully updated)
>>
> OK, then where I said "Splash Screen", I meant "Start Center".  
>
> In all cases I have ever seen the Splash Screen immediately transitions to the Start Center screen; on Forum we usually refer to the "Start Center" as the Splash Screen.

Sorry, that is very confusing for the user...

The Start Center is part of the program, while the Splash Screen is part
of the startup process.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splash_screen

>
>

[Kay Schenk-2]

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Dave Fisher <[hidden email]> wrote:

> We have regressions in 4.1.4. Until we get a fix out in either 4.2.0 or
> 4.1.5 we will continue to get bug reports. These will distract our
> volunteers and impact our users.
>
> We owe it to our users to be quick.
>
> Regarding 4.2.0. What are the new features and is everything being worked
> into trunk complete? If we were to decide to release it “quickly” what
> needs to be done?
>

​I was happy that I could build 4.2 recently on Linux-32 without issue! WOO
HOO!

Re "new" features...there is quite a backlog of translations, including
items in the Help section that are now about 3 years in arrears until 4.2.0
is out. Likely many other improvements including the recent DB access
glitch that Damjen fixed. Timewise, I think there is a bit more to do for
4.2.0 but probably not much.

Like others, I'd like to see AOO move on to 4.2.0 rather than 4.1.5.

​

>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Nov 22, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Peter kovacs <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I think to use 4.2.0 directly is causing less regression then to
> backport  a subset of fixes on the 4.1.x tree and then test for regressions.
> >
> > If the fix is indeed successfull with the build changes, we should
> release the new build, and go on.
> >
> >
> > Am 22. November 2017 13:05:14 MEZ schrieb Patricia Shanahan <
> [hidden email]>:
> >> I see 4.1.5-dev as a device for testing whether a bug is due to a
> >> specific problem. That change is already checked in to the trunk.
> >>
> >> We still have to decide whether to go straight to 4.2.0. The upside is,
> >>
> >> as Damjam points out, that we need to get the general benefits of 4.2
> >> out in the field. The downside is that, because of more changes, 4.2.0
> >> has a higher risk of regression. Should 4.2.0 go through field
> >> beta-testing?
> >>
> >> Going to 4.2.0 would simplify my activities. Because of better debug
> >> building and on general principles, I do my debug and fixing in trunk.
> >> I
> >> then have to back port the fixes to the 4.1.x line.
> >>
> >> On 11/22/2017 2:37 AM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote:
> >>> Thank you, but when are these 4.1.x releases going to stop?
> >>>
> >>> We have so much lined up for 4.2.0.
> >>>
> >>> Damjan
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Jim Jagielski <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I have both macOS and Linux-64bit builds of 4.1.5-dev (HEAD on the
> >>>> AOO415 branch) available for fun and games (and testing) at:
> >>>>
> >>>>     http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/
> >>>>
> >>>> I've built all langs but have just uploaded: de, en-US, es, fr
> >>>> and ja (for now). Let me know if people want/need others
> >>>> uploaded.
> >>>>
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[Larry Gusaas-4]

On 2017-11-23, 4:36 PM Kay Schenk wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 8:48 AM, Dave Fisher<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>
>> We have regressions in 4.1.4. Until we get a fix out in either 4.2.0 or
>> 4.1.5 we will continue to get bug reports. These will distract our
>> volunteers and impact our users.
>>
>> We owe it to our users to be quick.
>>
>> Regarding 4.2.0. What are the new features and is everything being worked
>> into trunk complete? If we were to decide to release it “quickly” what
>> needs to be done?
>>
> ​I was happy that I could build 4.2 recently on Linux-32 without issue! WOO
> HOO!
>
> Re "new" features...there is quite a backlog of translations, including
> items in the Help section that are now about 3 years in arrears until 4.2.0
> is out. Likely many other improvements including the recent DB access
> glitch that Damjen fixed. Timewise, I think there is a bit more to do for
> 4.2.0 but probably not much.
>
> Like others, I'd like to see AOO move on to 4.2.0 rather than 4.1.5.

There are serious regressions in 4.1.4 for Macs. The fix needs to be released now, not wait
until 4.2.0



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[Pedro Lino-3]

Let's test! ;-)

It's a bit difficult since neither the OP nor joesch describe the steps to test DDE in https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127601

However if the idea is to load dde-test.odt and then Update the values so that the values in odt reflect a change in the ods, then I do not get a crash but the values are never updated under Windows 10 (see attached image).

In fact these values are not updated regardless of the AOO or LO version used under Windows 10...

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[Jim Jagielski]

> On Nov 23, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Rory,
>
> Am 23.11.2017 um 18:31 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>> I have downloaded and install AO0 4.2.0 for linux from
>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US_2017-11-23_04%3A16%3A31_1816101.tar.gz
>>
>> When opening a Writer file from the splash screen I get a "general error" message, then the file opens.  Starting AOO 4.2.0 from a terminal gives the message
>> ** (soffice:2353): WARNING **: Unknown type: GailWindow
>> The file then opens; it will accept a simple edit, and close correctly.
>
> That sounds like this issue:
> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127315
>
> It would be interesting if it only affects builds based on Ubuntu
> (14.04). Can someone build 4.2.0 on CentOS under release conditions?
>

Question: Is CentOS 5 still our preferred version, or should we deprecate
CentOS5 for CentOS 6?

There are some things that 4.2.0 requires requires some updated 3rd party
libs, like zip 3.0.0 or later, etc.

If I had to vote, I'd say w/ assume (and stay w/) CentOS 5 since the upgrade to
CentOS 6 will likely cause a lot of potential for regressions.


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[Peter Kovacs-3]

I thought we add all dependencies to the build process. (thats why our
build takes ages.)
I thought the only distibution dependency is the build environment.
Maybe I am wrong. If so I do not understand how CentOS5 can be
compatible to everything else.

On 24.11.2017 16:23, Jim Jagielski wrote:

>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rory,
>>
>> Am 23.11.2017 um 18:31 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>> I have downloaded and install AO0 4.2.0 for linux from
>>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US_2017-11-23_04%3A16%3A31_1816101.tar.gz
>>>
>>> When opening a Writer file from the splash screen I get a "general error" message, then the file opens.  Starting AOO 4.2.0 from a terminal gives the message
>>> ** (soffice:2353): WARNING **: Unknown type: GailWindow
>>> The file then opens; it will accept a simple edit, and close correctly.
>> That sounds like this issue:
>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127315
>>
>> It would be interesting if it only affects builds based on Ubuntu
>> (14.04). Can someone build 4.2.0 on CentOS under release conditions?
>>
> Question: Is CentOS 5 still our preferred version, or should we deprecate
> CentOS5 for CentOS 6?
>
> There are some things that 4.2.0 requires requires some updated 3rd party
> libs, like zip 3.0.0 or later, etc.
>
> If I had to vote, I'd say w/ assume (and stay w/) CentOS 5 since the upgrade to
> CentOS 6 will likely cause a lot of potential for regressions.
>
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[Jim Jagielski]

True, but not ALL dependencies... for example, we require egrep :)

But Zip 3.0.0 is one specifically checked for:

> dnl ===================================================================
> dnl Zip must be available or else it is an error, all platforms
> dnl ===================================================================
> if test -z "$ZIP" -o -z "$UNZIP"; then
>     AC_MSG_ERROR([Zip/Unzip are required to build, please install or use --with-zip-home],,)
> fi
> if "$ZIP" -FS < /dev/null 2>&1 | $EGREP "no such option: S" > /dev/null; then
>     AC_MSG_ERROR([Zip version 3.0 or newer is required to build, please install or use --with-zip-home],,)
> fi
>

It does look like all previous builds, up to and including 4.1.4 were done on
CentOS5 (for the released binaries).

So the question is that w/ 4.2.0, do we no longer support CentOS 5 as a
supported build platform. Another dependency seems to be GIO, but we
can build w/o that. But is that really an option for our community builds??

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Peter Kovacs <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I thought we add all dependencies to the build process. (thats why our build takes ages.)
> I thought the only distibution dependency is the build environment.
> Maybe I am wrong. If so I do not understand how CentOS5 can be compatible to everything else.
>
> On 24.11.2017 16:23, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Rory,
>>>
>>> Am 23.11.2017 um 18:31 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>>> I have downloaded and install AO0 4.2.0 for linux from
>>>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/linux64/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US_2017-11-23_04%3A16%3A31_1816101.tar.gz
>>>>
>>>> When opening a Writer file from the splash screen I get a "general error" message, then the file opens.  Starting AOO 4.2.0 from a terminal gives the message
>>>> ** (soffice:2353): WARNING **: Unknown type: GailWindow
>>>> The file then opens; it will accept a simple edit, and close correctly.
>>> That sounds like this issue:
>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127315
>>>
>>> It would be interesting if it only affects builds based on Ubuntu
>>> (14.04). Can someone build 4.2.0 on CentOS under release conditions?
>>>
>> Question: Is CentOS 5 still our preferred version, or should we deprecate
>> CentOS5 for CentOS 6?
>>
>> There are some things that 4.2.0 requires requires some updated 3rd party
>> libs, like zip 3.0.0 or later, etc.
>>
>> If I had to vote, I'd say w/ assume (and stay w/) CentOS 5 since the upgrade to
>> CentOS 6 will likely cause a lot of potential for regressions.
>>
>>
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[Jim Jagielski]

> On Nov 23, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Larry Gusaas <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> There are serious regressions in 4.1.4 for Macs. The fix needs to be released now, not wait until 4.2.0
>

And at least 1 fix that address all platforms as well, so I do think a 4.1.5 will
be required.

Also, as mentioned on a different thread, the move from 4.1.x to 4.2.x
will mean that some older platforms will likely need to be dropped
and/or deprecated. For example, CentOS 5 lacks GIO-2.0, which means
that it is no longer, afaict, a candidate for our community build server
setup (which is what 4.0 and 4.1 were built on). Also, OS X 10.7
will likely need to be deprecated for 4.2.0.

The long and short is that there are, and possible will be,
some AOO users that cannot move to 4.2.0 and so we should
make sure that our "final" 4.1.x build is as good and solid and as
stable as we can make it.
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[Damjan Jovanovic]

CentOS 5 is now EOL, even its maintenance updates ended on 31 March 2017. I
think we have to move to CentOS 6.

I made GIO the default VFS searched by configure instead of GnomeVFS, as
that's what everybody has been using for years; AOO is pretty much the only
application still pulling in that ancient package with who knows what
security issues. It was done in this commit:

r1812655 | damjan | 2017-10-19 18:35:49 +0200 (Thu, 19 Oct 2017) | 6 lines
Changed paths:
   M /openoffice/trunk/main/configure.ac

GnomeVFS was deprecated 9 years ago. Make GIO, its replacement,
the default searched by configure.ac instead.

----

If we really need GnomeVFS back, we can revert that commit, or use
./configure switches to favor GnomeVFS over GIO.

Damjan



On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Jim Jagielski <[hidden email]> wrote:

> True, but not ALL dependencies... for example, we require egrep :)
>
> But Zip 3.0.0 is one specifically checked for:
>
> > dnl ===================================================================
> > dnl Zip must be available or else it is an error, all platforms
> > dnl ===================================================================
> > if test -z "$ZIP" -o -z "$UNZIP"; then
> >     AC_MSG_ERROR([Zip/Unzip are required to build, please install or use
> --with-zip-home],,)
> > fi
> > if "$ZIP" -FS < /dev/null 2>&1 | $EGREP "no such option: S" > /dev/null;
> then
> >     AC_MSG_ERROR([Zip version 3.0 or newer is required to build, please
> install or use --with-zip-home],,)
> > fi
> >
>
> It does look like all previous builds, up to and including 4.1.4 were done
> on
> CentOS5 (for the released binaries).
>
> So the question is that w/ 4.2.0, do we no longer support CentOS 5 as a
> supported build platform. Another dependency seems to be GIO, but we
> can build w/o that. But is that really an option for our community builds??
>
>
> > On Nov 24, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Peter Kovacs <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I thought we add all dependencies to the build process. (thats why our
> build takes ages.)
> > I thought the only distibution dependency is the build environment.
> > Maybe I am wrong. If so I do not understand how CentOS5 can be
> compatible to everything else.
> >
> > On 24.11.2017 16:23, Jim Jagielski wrote:
> >>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Matthias Seidel <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Rory,
> >>>
> >>> Am 23.11.2017 um 18:31 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
> >>>> I have downloaded and install AO0 4.2.0 for linux from
> >>>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/
> linux64/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-
> US_2017-11-23_04%3A16%3A31_1816101.tar.gz
> >>>>
> >>>> When opening a Writer file from the splash screen I get a "general
> error" message, then the file opens.  Starting AOO 4.2.0 from a terminal
> gives the message
> >>>> ** (soffice:2353): WARNING **: Unknown type: GailWindow
> >>>> The file then opens; it will accept a simple edit, and close
> correctly.
> >>> That sounds like this issue:
> >>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127315
> >>>
> >>> It would be interesting if it only affects builds based on Ubuntu
> >>> (14.04). Can someone build 4.2.0 on CentOS under release conditions?
> >>>
> >> Question: Is CentOS 5 still our preferred version, or should we
> deprecate
> >> CentOS5 for CentOS 6?
> >>
> >> There are some things that 4.2.0 requires requires some updated 3rd
> party
> >> libs, like zip 3.0.0 or later, etc.
> >>
> >> If I had to vote, I'd say w/ assume (and stay w/) CentOS 5 since the
> upgrade to
> >> CentOS 6 will likely cause a lot of potential for regressions.
> >>
> >>
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[Patricia Shanahan]

On 11/24/2017 8:23 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote:

>
>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 6:06 PM, Larry Gusaas <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> There are serious regressions in 4.1.4 for Macs. The fix needs to be released now, not wait until 4.2.0
>>
>
> And at least 1 fix that address all platforms as well, so I do think a 4.1.5 will
> be required.
>
> Also, as mentioned on a different thread, the move from 4.1.x to 4.2.x
> will mean that some older platforms will likely need to be dropped
> and/or deprecated. For example, CentOS 5 lacks GIO-2.0, which means
> that it is no longer, afaict, a candidate for our community build server
> setup (which is what 4.0 and 4.1 were built on). Also, OS X 10.7
> will likely need to be deprecated for 4.2.0.
>
> The long and short is that there are, and possible will be,
> some AOO users that cannot move to 4.2.0 and so we should
> make sure that our "final" 4.1.x build is as good and solid and as
> stable as we can make it.

To answer Damjan's question "when are these 4.1.x releases going to
stop?", we need to continue with 4.1.x builds, and releases as needed,
at least until 4.2.0 development is complete.

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[Jim Jagielski]

The more I think about it, I agree that deprecating CentOS5 for 4.2.x is the
Right Way To Go.

I plan on creating 2 CentOS6 VMs this weekend: one 64 and the other 32bit.
I'll put the CentOS5 VMs "on storage" for 4.1.x.

> On Nov 24, 2017, at 11:47 AM, Damjan Jovanovic <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> CentOS 5 is now EOL, even its maintenance updates ended on 31 March 2017. I
> think we have to move to CentOS 6.
>
> I made GIO the default VFS searched by configure instead of GnomeVFS, as
> that's what everybody has been using for years; AOO is pretty much the only
> application still pulling in that ancient package with who knows what
> security issues. It was done in this commit:
>
> r1812655 | damjan | 2017-10-19 18:35:49 +0200 (Thu, 19 Oct 2017) | 6 lines
> Changed paths:
>   M /openoffice/trunk/main/configure.ac
>
> GnomeVFS was deprecated 9 years ago. Make GIO, its replacement,
> the default searched by configure.ac instead.
>
> ----
>
> If we really need GnomeVFS back, we can revert that commit, or use
> ./configure switches to favor GnomeVFS over GIO.
>
> Damjan
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Jim Jagielski <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> True, but not ALL dependencies... for example, we require egrep :)
>>
>> But Zip 3.0.0 is one specifically checked for:
>>
>>> dnl ===================================================================
>>> dnl Zip must be available or else it is an error, all platforms
>>> dnl ===================================================================
>>> if test -z "$ZIP" -o -z "$UNZIP"; then
>>>    AC_MSG_ERROR([Zip/Unzip are required to build, please install or use
>> --with-zip-home],,)
>>> fi
>>> if "$ZIP" -FS < /dev/null 2>&1 | $EGREP "no such option: S" > /dev/null;
>> then
>>>    AC_MSG_ERROR([Zip version 3.0 or newer is required to build, please
>> install or use --with-zip-home],,)
>>> fi
>>>
>>
>> It does look like all previous builds, up to and including 4.1.4 were done
>> on
>> CentOS5 (for the released binaries).
>>
>> So the question is that w/ 4.2.0, do we no longer support CentOS 5 as a
>> supported build platform. Another dependency seems to be GIO, but we
>> can build w/o that. But is that really an option for our community builds??
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Peter Kovacs <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I thought we add all dependencies to the build process. (thats why our
>> build takes ages.)
>>> I thought the only distibution dependency is the build environment.
>>> Maybe I am wrong. If so I do not understand how CentOS5 can be
>> compatible to everything else.
>>>
>>> On 24.11.2017 16:23, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 23, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Matthias Seidel <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Rory,
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 23.11.2017 um 18:31 schrieb Rory O'Farrell:
>>>>>> I have downloaded and install AO0 4.2.0 for linux from
>>>>>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/
>> linux64/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-
>> US_2017-11-23_04%3A16%3A31_1816101.tar.gz
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When opening a Writer file from the splash screen I get a "general
>> error" message, then the file opens.  Starting AOO 4.2.0 from a terminal
>> gives the message
>>>>>> ** (soffice:2353): WARNING **: Unknown type: GailWindow
>>>>>> The file then opens; it will accept a simple edit, and close
>> correctly.
>>>>> That sounds like this issue:
>>>>> https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127315
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be interesting if it only affects builds based on Ubuntu
>>>>> (14.04). Can someone build 4.2.0 on CentOS under release conditions?
>>>>>
>>>> Question: Is CentOS 5 still our preferred version, or should we
>> deprecate
>>>> CentOS5 for CentOS 6?
>>>>
>>>> There are some things that 4.2.0 requires requires some updated 3rd
>> party
>>>> libs, like zip 3.0.0 or later, etc.
>>>>
>>>> If I had to vote, I'd say w/ assume (and stay w/) CentOS 5 since the
>> upgrade to
>>>> CentOS 6 will likely cause a lot of potential for regressions.
>>>>
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I have my 2 CentOS6 build VMs up and running. I am attempting
to build 4.2.0 (trunk) on the 64bit CentOS 6.9 VM 1st.

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I am uploading to:

    http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/ <http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/>

4.2.0-dev builds for Linux64 and Windows... After that will
come Linux32 and macOS (assuming it builds... I've had
issues before).

These are based on HEAD of trunk, ~r1816311. The Linux builds
are built on CentOS 6.9.

[Matthias Seidel]

Am 26.11.2017 um 00:09 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

> I am uploading to:
>
>     http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/ <http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/>
>
> 4.2.0-dev builds for Linux64 and Windows... After that will
> come Linux32 and macOS (assuming it builds... I've had
> issues before).
>
> These are based on HEAD of trunk, ~r1816311. The Linux builds
> are built on CentOS 6.9.

"You don't have permission to access
/~jim/AOO-builds/AOO-4.2.0-dev-r1816311/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_de.tar.gzon
this server."

;-)

[Jim Jagielski]

should be fixed now.

> On Nov 26, 2017, at 5:54 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Am 26.11.2017 um 00:09 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>> I am uploading to:
>>
>>    http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/ <http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/>
>>
>> 4.2.0-dev builds for Linux64 and Windows... After that will
>> come Linux32 and macOS (assuming it builds... I've had
>> issues before).
>>
>> These are based on HEAD of trunk, ~r1816311. The Linux builds
>> are built on CentOS 6.9.
>
> "You don't have permission to access
> /~jim/AOO-builds/AOO-4.2.0-dev-r1816311/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_de.tar.gzon
> this server."
>
> ;-)
>
>
>
>

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[Matthias Seidel]

Thanks, I could download and install the build now.

However, the bug [1] is still present for me on Ubuntu 16.04.3 (64bit).

So it is not only an issue when building on Ubuntu 14.04 (like our
buildbots do).

Regards, Matthias

[1] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127315


Am 26.11.2017 um 15:03 schrieb Jim Jagielski:

> should be fixed now.
>
>> On Nov 26, 2017, at 5:54 AM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Am 26.11.2017 um 00:09 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
>>> I am uploading to:
>>>
>>>    http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/ <http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/>
>>>
>>> 4.2.0-dev builds for Linux64 and Windows... After that will
>>> come Linux32 and macOS (assuming it builds... I've had
>>> issues before).
>>>
>>> These are based on HEAD of trunk, ~r1816311. The Linux builds
>>> are built on CentOS 6.9.
>> "You don't have permission to access
>> /~jim/AOO-builds/AOO-4.2.0-dev-r1816311/de/Apache_OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_de.tar.gzon
>> this server."
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[Damjan Jovanovic]

When you get that error, before clicking "OK", please attach gdb and run
"thread apply all bt", and post the output.

Damjan

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 8:30 PM, Matthias Seidel <[hidden email]
> wrote:

> Thanks, I could download and install the build now.
>
> However, the bug [1] is still present for me on Ubuntu 16.04.3 (64bit).
>
> So it is not only an issue when building on Ubuntu 14.04 (like our
> buildbots do).
>
> Regards, Matthias
>
> [1] https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127315
>
>
> Am 26.11.2017 um 15:03 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> > should be fixed now.
> >
> >> On Nov 26, 2017, at 5:54 AM, Matthias Seidel <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Am 26.11.2017 um 00:09 schrieb Jim Jagielski:
> >>> I am uploading to:
> >>>
> >>>    http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/ <
> http://home.apache.org/~jim/AOO-builds/>
> >>>
> >>> 4.2.0-dev builds for Linux64 and Windows... After that will
> >>> come Linux32 and macOS (assuming it builds... I've had
> >>> issues before).
> >>>
> >>> These are based on HEAD of trunk, ~r1816311. The Linux builds
> >>> are built on CentOS 6.9.
> >> "You don't have permission to access
> >> /~jim/AOO-builds/AOO-4.2.0-dev-r1816311/de/Apache_
> OpenOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_de.tar.gzon
> >> this server."
> >>
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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[Andrea Pescetti-2]

On 24/11/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Question: Is CentOS 5 still our preferred version, or should we deprecate
> CentOS5 for CentOS 6?

We should move to CentOS 6. I've explained it in detail at
https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127513 more than 3 months ago
and I'll happily discuss this in a thread bearing an appropriate title.

> There are some things that 4.2.0 requires requires some updated 3rd party
> libs, like zip 3.0.0 or later, etc.
> If I had to vote, I'd say w/ assume (and stay w/) CentOS 5 since the upgrade to
> CentOS 6 will likely cause a lot of potential for regressions.

For any further 4.1.x release (if need be) I would definitely stick with
CentOS 5; changing would not make sense. But for trunk there is no
reason to delay the upgrade, see again my issue above.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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[Andrea Pescetti-2]

On 24/11/2017 Patricia Shanahan wrote:
> To answer Damjan's question "when are these 4.1.x releases going to
> stop?", we need to continue with 4.1.x builds, and releases as needed,
> at least until 4.2.0 development is complete.

This is correct but it misses a (probably taken for granted) detail: the
focus is only on 4.2.0.

Future 4.1.x releases may happen only if we need to fix regressions or
need to push a security fix. But no feature or "normal" bugfix work
should happen on 4.1.x any longer.

If we agree on this, then we are probably all on the same page as for
the roles of 4.1.x and 4.2.0.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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