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Duffield
Does Open Office Writer have any feature comparable to WordPad?  I have
searched but find no reference yet to any quick and easy feature for brief
notes as provided by WordPad.  I keep WordPad in my Quick Launch Bar and use
it often.  With this feature, and having a couple other minor questions
answered, I could probably totally abandon my use of the Microsoft product
in favor of Open Office.

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Re: Writer Question

Barbara Duprey
On 11/20/2010 10:03 PM, Duffield wrote:
> Does Open Office Writer have any feature comparable to WordPad?  I have
> searched but find no reference yet to any quick and easy feature for brief
> notes as provided by WordPad.  I keep WordPad in my Quick Launch Bar and use
> it often.  With this feature, and having a couple other minor questions
> answered, I could probably totally abandon my use of the Microsoft product
> in favor of Open Office.

We're all for helping you do that! What kind of notes are you referring to? You can certainly use a
Writer window to create notes, with a lot more capabilities than WordPad available but not
necessarily used. Maybe it would help if you described more fully what it is you're trying to
achieve, for those of us who are not frequent users of WordPad.

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Re: Writer Question

Bob Holtzman-2
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On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 07:03:21PM -0900, Duffield wrote:
> Does Open Office Writer have any feature comparable to WordPad?  I have
> searched but find no reference yet to any quick and easy feature for brief
> notes as provided by WordPad.  I keep WordPad in my Quick Launch Bar and use
> it often.  With this feature, and having a couple other minor questions
> answered, I could probably totally abandon my use of the Microsoft product
> in favor of Open Office.

From what I remember of Windows WordPad, is a separate application, not
part of an office suite (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). You
may want to use gedit on Linux or if you really mean quick and dirty
notes look at Tomboy.

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Re: Writer Question

Robert Derman-2
Robert Holtzman wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 07:03:21PM -0900, Duffield wrote:
>  
>> Does Open Office Writer have any feature comparable to WordPad?  I have
>> searched but find no reference yet to any quick and easy feature for brief
>> notes as provided by WordPad.  I keep WordPad in my Quick Launch Bar and use
>> it often.  With this feature, and having a couple other minor questions
>> answered, I could probably totally abandon my use of the Microsoft product
>> in favor of Open Office.
>>    
>
> >From what I remember of Windows WordPad, is a separate application, not
> part of an office suite (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). You
> may want to use gedit on Linux or if you really mean quick and dirty
> notes look at Tomboy.
>  
This is exactly correct, WordPad is part of the Windows Operating System
and it will be on you computer if you are using any version of Windows
from Windows 95 on, unless you have intentionally deleted it.  It is NOT
a part of the MS Office package.  It is a simple text editor, not a word
processor, and it was first included to permit writing code for BASIC.

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Re: Writer Question

Duffield
I hope I am replying to all who offered the good and appreciated comments to
my inquiry.

My ignorance here.  I have had Word installed in my PC's for many years and
never questioned that WordPad was a product of Word.  *I was wrong*.  As
pointed out, it is a product of my basic Windows installation and I now have
a shortcut to it on my Quick Launch bar as I've had for years.  Unless
something else crops up, I do not plan to reinstall Word on this freshly
rebuilt PC.

I sincerely thank and appreciate those who responded to my question so
quickly.  Especially for being gracious enough to not make an issue of my
ignorance.  70 years old and still getting an education every single day.

My one remaining unanswered question is if Writer will print address bar
codes on envelopes along with addressee information.  I certainly cannot
find any way yet but have posted my question for any suggestions.
Incidentally to the person who inquired about my application of WordPad---I
use it for quick notes or copying and pasting items of a temporary nature.
I like it for that because it opens almost instantly and is simple and easy
to use.  With my older PC's, Writer takes a fair bit longer to open and it
is really overkill for some of my needs.

Thank you all,

Robert



On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Robert Derman <
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> Robert Holtzman wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 07:03:21PM -0900, Duffield wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Does Open Office Writer have any feature comparable to WordPad?  I have
>>> searched but find no reference yet to any quick and easy feature for
>>> brief
>>> notes as provided by WordPad.  I keep WordPad in my Quick Launch Bar and
>>> use
>>> it often.  With this feature, and having a couple other minor questions
>>> answered, I could probably totally abandon my use of the Microsoft
>>> product
>>> in favor of Open Office.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> >From what I remember of Windows WordPad, is a separate application, not
>> part of an office suite (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). You
>> may want to use gedit on Linux or if you really mean quick and dirty
>> notes look at Tomboy.
>>
>>
> This is exactly correct, WordPad is part of the Windows Operating System
> and it will be on you computer if you are using any version of Windows from
> Windows 95 on, unless you have intentionally deleted it.  It is NOT a part
> of the MS Office package.  It is a simple text editor, not a word processor,
> and it was first included to permit writing code for BASIC.
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Re: Writer Question

John W Kennedy-2
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On Nov 21, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Robert Derman wrote:

> Robert Holtzman wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 07:03:21PM -0900, Duffield wrote:
>>  
>>> Does Open Office Writer have any feature comparable to WordPad?  I have
>>> searched but find no reference yet to any quick and easy feature for brief
>>> notes as provided by WordPad.  I keep WordPad in my Quick Launch Bar and use
>>> it often.  With this feature, and having a couple other minor questions
>>> answered, I could probably totally abandon my use of the Microsoft product
>>> in favor of Open Office.
>>>    
>>
>> >From what I remember of Windows WordPad, is a separate application, not
>> part of an office suite (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). You
>> may want to use gedit on Linux or if you really mean quick and dirty
>> notes look at Tomboy.
>>  
> This is exactly correct, WordPad is part of the Windows Operating System and it will be on you computer if you are using any version of Windows from Windows 95 on, unless you have intentionally deleted it.  It is NOT a part of the MS Office package.  It is a simple text editor, not a word processor, and it was first included to permit writing code for BASIC.

You have confused WordPad (formerly known as Windows Write), a low-function word processor, with Windows Notepad, a plain text editor. The only thing WordPad can do that OOo can not is start quickly.

And neither one was ever designed for writing BASIC. Microsoft has never had a BASIC for DOS or Windows that did not include its own editor. Notepad is, however, useful for BAT files and CONFIG.SYS.

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Re: Writer Question

Bob Holtzman-2
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On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:47:01AM -0900, Duffield wrote:
> I hope I am replying to all who offered the good and appreciated comments to
> my inquiry.
>
> My ignorance here.  I have had Word installed in my PC's for many years and
> never questioned that WordPad was a product of Word.  *I was wrong*.  As
> pointed out, it is a product of my basic Windows installation and I now have
> a shortcut to it on my Quick Launch bar as I've had for years.  Unless
> something else crops up, I do not plan to reinstall Word on this freshly
> rebuilt PC.

My apologies. I was under the impression that you were thinking of
dumping Windows for Linux (which I would recommend to anyone).

>
> I sincerely thank and appreciate those who responded to my question so
> quickly.  Especially for being gracious enough to not make an issue of my
> ignorance.  70 years old and still getting an education every single day.

I'm 74 so there's hope for you yet.

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Re: Writer Question

Gene Young
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On 11/21/2010 3:47 PM, Duffield wrote:

> Incidentally to the person who inquired about my application of WordPad---I
> use it for quick notes or copying and pasting items of a temporary nature.
> I like it for that because it opens almost instantly and is simple and easy
> to use.  With my older PC's, Writer takes a fair bit longer to open and it
> is really overkill for some of my needs.
>
> Thank you all,
>
> Robert
>
>
Robert,

Go to http://www.zhornsoftware.co.uk/ and download and install stickies.
  It will do as you need for temporary notes.  You can also save them if
desired.  It resembles a yellow post-it note on your desk top.  It has
many other useful options but it is best for your application.  I have
been using it for years.  The "post-it" opens instantly so there is no
delay.

To list:  Sorry for the off topic reply but I had to help another "elder."

Gene

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Re: Writer Question

Robert Derman-2
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John W Kennedy wrote:

> On Nov 21, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Robert Derman wrote:
>
>  
>> Robert Holtzman wrote:
>>    
>>> On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 07:03:21PM -0900, Duffield wrote:
>>>  
>>>      
>>>> Does Open Office Writer have any feature comparable to WordPad?  I have
>>>> searched but find no reference yet to any quick and easy feature for brief
>>>> notes as provided by WordPad.  I keep WordPad in my Quick Launch Bar and use
>>>> it often.  With this feature, and having a couple other minor questions
>>>> answered, I could probably totally abandon my use of the Microsoft product
>>>> in favor of Open Office.
>>>>    
>>>>        
>>> >From what I remember of Windows WordPad, is a separate application, not
>>> part of an office suite (someone please correct me if I'm wrong). You
>>> may want to use gedit on Linux or if you really mean quick and dirty
>>> notes look at Tomboy.
>>>  
>>>      
>> This is exactly correct, WordPad is part of the Windows Operating System and it will be on you computer if you are using any version of Windows from Windows 95 on, unless you have intentionally deleted it.  It is NOT a part of the MS Office package.  It is a simple text editor, not a word processor, and it was first included to permit writing code for BASIC.
>>    
>
> You have confused WordPad (formerly known as Windows Write), a low-function word processor, with Windows Notepad, a plain text editor. The only thing WordPad can do that OOo can not is start quickly.
>  
John, it has been a long time since I have used any of these, and with
their similar names, WordPad and NotePad, I never could keep straight
which was which, but in any case, both were provided with the Win OS.  
and IIRC I did use NotePad to write code for BASIC, I must have assumed
it was for that, because I used it for that myself.  Anyway, once Win XP
came out I never went near a command line again and forgot all about these.
> And neither one was ever designed for writing BASIC. Microsoft has never had a BASIC for DOS or Windows that did not include its own editor. Notepad is, however, useful for BAT files and CONFIG.SYS.
>
>  


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Re: Writer Question

NoOp-4
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On 11/21/2010 12:47 PM, Duffield wrote:
...
> My one remaining unanswered question is if Writer will print address bar
> codes on envelopes along with addressee information.  I certainly cannot
> find any way yet but have posted my question for any suggestions.
...

Unfortunately not:
http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5948
[Envelope addressing does not print barcodes (postnet zip-codes)]
Opened: Tue Jun 18 13:20:00 +0000 2002
Status:   NEW

These might be of help:
http://www.idautomation.com/openoffice/
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/barcode


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NoOp-4
On 11/23/2010 10:23 AM, NoOp wrote:

> On 11/21/2010 12:47 PM, Duffield wrote:
> ...
>> My one remaining unanswered question is if Writer will print address bar
>> codes on envelopes along with addressee information.  I certainly cannot
>> find any way yet but have posted my question for any suggestions.
> ...
>
> Unfortunately not:
> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5948
> [Envelope addressing does not print barcodes (postnet zip-codes)]
> Opened: Tue Jun 18 13:20:00 +0000 2002
> Status:   NEW
>
> These might be of help:
> http://www.idautomation.com/openoffice/
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/barcode

Found another that might help:
<http://blog.qualifiedaddress.com/2010/01/how-to-print-barcodes-in-openofficeorg.html>


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Duffield
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Thank you for the direct answer.  I thought perhaps that it might have been
there but that I simply had not found it yet.  I'll not search further.  I
will hope that the feature may be incorporated in some future release.  It
certainly is not essential to me but I've long used it to aid in having my
mail routed quickly and efficiently.  The post office tells me they
appreciate having it on envelopes and address labels but it is not so
important that I will reinstall Word in my PC just to get the feature.

Thank you for your information.

Robert



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 9:23 AM, NoOp <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 11/21/2010 12:47 PM, Duffield wrote:
> ...
> > My one remaining unanswered question is if Writer will print address bar
> > codes on envelopes along with addressee information.  I certainly cannot
> > find any way yet but have posted my question for any suggestions.
> ...
>
> Unfortunately not:
> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=5948
> [Envelope addressing does not print barcodes (postnet zip-codes)]
> Opened: Tue Jun 18 13:20:00 +0000 2002
> Status:         NEW
>
> These might be of help:
> http://www.idautomation.com/openoffice/
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/barcode
>
>
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NoOp-4
On 11/23/2010 11:17 AM, Duffield wrote:

> Thank you for the direct answer.  I thought perhaps that it might have been
> there but that I simply had not found it yet.  I'll not search further.  I
> will hope that the feature may be incorporated in some future release.  It
> certainly is not essential to me but I've long used it to aid in having my
> mail routed quickly and efficiently.  The post office tells me they
> appreciate having it on envelopes and address labels but it is not so
> important that I will reinstall Word in my PC just to get the feature.
>
> Thank you for your information.
>
> Robert
Please bottom post on this list - meaning put your reply following mine :-)

It's a bit of a kludge, but you can use the postnet font for single
envelopes, at least until May 2011 (after that the USPS is converting to
their "Intelligent" barcode & I've no idea if the postnet barcode is
valid afterwards.

Download and install the postnet.ttf font on your system:
http://www.qualifiedaddress.com/Library/POSTNET.ttf
Open OOo and create your envelope address as normal in 'Insert|Envelope.
However, when adding the addressee's information in the Addressee box,
add the postal code again below the address:

John Doe
Anytreet 1234
Anytown, Somestate 123456-78910
123456-78910 <== here

Create the envelope, then highlight the bottom 123456-78910 and change
the font to the postalnet font. Hint, the font will not display like the
other fonts in the dropdown; instead enter 'U' and that will get you to
the fonts with U names, look for the one that shows nothing & select
that. The postal code should then change to the barcode.
Note that it will not display/work in the envelope (Insert|Envelope)
addressee box - don't know why, it just won't. So you need to change the
font on the envelope section itself after the envelope has been created.

I've attached a sample (postnetsample.odt).
If you click on Insert|Envelope you'll see that I've added the postal
code in the addressee box simply so I don't have to copy & paste when
the envelope is created.

To create & use in a mailmerge, try the instructions given on the links
that I provided. Hope that helps.



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Duffield
This is an excellent tip and I thank you very much.  I will definitely try
your suggestion.

Robert



On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:18 PM, NoOp <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 11/23/2010 11:17 AM, Duffield wrote:
> > Thank you for the direct answer.  I thought perhaps that it might have
> been
> > there but that I simply had not found it yet.  I'll not search further.
>  I
> > will hope that the feature may be incorporated in some future release.
>  It
> > certainly is not essential to me but I've long used it to aid in having
> my
> > mail routed quickly and efficiently.  The post office tells me they
> > appreciate having it on envelopes and address labels but it is not so
> > important that I will reinstall Word in my PC just to get the feature.
> >
> > Thank you for your information.
> >
> > Robert
>
> Please bottom post on this list - meaning put your reply following mine :-)
>
> It's a bit of a kludge, but you can use the postnet font for single
> envelopes, at least until May 2011 (after that the USPS is converting to
> their "Intelligent" barcode & I've no idea if the postnet barcode is
> valid afterwards.
>
> Download and install the postnet.ttf font on your system:
> http://www.qualifiedaddress.com/Library/POSTNET.ttf
> Open OOo and create your envelope address as normal in 'Insert|Envelope.
> However, when adding the addressee's information in the Addressee box,
> add the postal code again below the address:
>
> John Doe
> Anytreet 1234
> Anytown, Somestate 123456-78910
> 123456-78910 <== here
>
> Create the envelope, then highlight the bottom 123456-78910 and change
> the font to the postalnet font. Hint, the font will not display like the
> other fonts in the dropdown; instead enter 'U' and that will get you to
> the fonts with U names, look for the one that shows nothing & select
> that. The postal code should then change to the barcode.
> Note that it will not display/work in the envelope (Insert|Envelope)
> addressee box - don't know why, it just won't. So you need to change the
> font on the envelope section itself after the envelope has been created.
>
> I've attached a sample (postnetsample.odt).
> If you click on Insert|Envelope you'll see that I've added the postal
> code in the addressee box simply so I don't have to copy & paste when
> the envelope is created.
>
> To create & use in a mailmerge, try the instructions given on the links
> that I provided. Hope that helps.
>
>
>
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