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help: some acc items are not found in OpenOffice3.1

Ming Fei Jia

Hello All in this list:

I'm checking whether all the accessibility features defined in ODF1.1 have been implemented in OpenOffice3.1. But still have some items that I can not identify in OpenOffice 3.1. Could anyone in this list help for this? Thanks.

Below is the list:

Feature Implemented in OpenOffice? Comments
Soft page breakYesFound in ODF file. But can't find GUI to enable or disable it.
table header structural markup (Header columns & rows)Can't findCan't find UI
Alternative text for drawing layerCan't findCan't find UI
relationships between objects and their captionsCan't findCan't find UI
text hints for hypertext linksCan't findCan't find UI
    Best Regards,

    Mingfei Jia(贾明飞)
    IBM Lotus Symphony Development
    IBM China Software Development LAB, Beijing
    Tel: 86-10-82452493 Fax: 86-10-82452887
    <a href="NOTES:Ming">NOTES:Ming Fei Jia/China/IBM E-mail: [hidden email]
    Address: No.28 Building, Zhong Guan Cun Software Park, No.8 Dong Bei Wang West Road, ShangDi, Haidian District, Beijing 100193, P.R.China
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Re: help: some acc items are not found in OpenOffice3.1

Malte Timmermann
Hi Migfei...

> Soft page break: Found in ODF file. But can't find GUI to enable or disable it.

There is no configuration for this. We figured out it doesn't slow down
performance, so it's always done, no way to disable it.

> table header structural markup (Header columns & rows)

People can create well structured tables, but they need to turn on
“repeat headings” (Writer), or use print ranges (Calc).
Adding some extra UI for this probably doesn't make sense as long as
people can't declare headings w/o repeating them!
In Writer, it might be a good idea to turn on “heading” and “repeat” by
default. Notes 8 is also handling it like Writer, IBM and other members
in OASIS ODF A11y SC think it's OK that it must be repeating.

> Alternative text for drawing layer

See format / Layer...

> relationships between objects and their captions

Can't be done w/o Writer having a general concept for captions.
OOo only fakes to have captions - in reality it's just image+text in a
frame, and some application logic handling this as a caption under
certain circumstances.
I will ask the Writer if something changed in this area meanwhile.

> text hints for hypertext links

http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=68102

It is not so easy to extend the existing hyper link tab page w/o bigger
redesign, and we expect bigger UI changes with project "Renaissance".

HTH,
Malte.



Ming Fei Jia wrote, On 05/05/09 07:08:

> Hello All in this list:
>
> I'm checking whether all the accessibility features defined in ODF1.1
> have been implemented in OpenOffice3.1. But still have some items that I
> can not identify in OpenOffice 3.1. Could anyone in this list help for
> this? Thanks.
>
> Below is the list:
> *Feature * *Implemented in OpenOffice? * *Comments*
> Soft page break Yes Found in ODF file. But can't find GUI to enable or
> disable it.
> table header structural markup (Header columns & rows) Can't find Can't
> find UI
> Alternative text for drawing layer Can't find Can't find UI
> relationships between objects and their captions Can't find Can't find UI
> text hints for hypertext links Can't find Can't find UI
>
>       Best Regards,
>
>       Mingfei Jia(贾明飞)
>       IBM Lotus Symphony Development
>       IBM China Software Development LAB, Beijing
>       Tel: 86-10-82452493 Fax: 86-10-82452887
>       NOTES:Ming Fei Jia/China/IBM E-mail: [hidden email]
>       Address: No.28 Building, Zhong Guan Cun Software Park, No.8 Dong
>       Bei Wang West Road, ShangDi, Haidian District, Beijing 100193,
>       P.R.China
>

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Re: help: some acc items are not found in OpenOffice3.1

Ming Fei Jia

    Malte, thank you so much:)


Malte Timmermann ---05/08/2009 10:45:30 PM---Hi Migfei...


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Hi Migfei...

> Soft page break: Found in ODF file. But can't find GUI to enable or disable it.

There is no configuration for this. We figured out it doesn't slow down
performance, so it's always done, no way to disable it.

> table header structural markup (Header columns & rows)

People can create well structured tables, but they need to turn on
“repeat headings” (Writer), or use print ranges (Calc).
Adding some extra UI for this probably doesn't make sense as long as
people can't declare headings w/o repeating them!
In Writer, it might be a good idea to turn on “heading” and “repeat” by
default. Notes 8 is also handling it like Writer, IBM and other members
in OASIS ODF A11y SC think it's OK that it must be repeating.

> Alternative text for drawing layer

See format / Layer...

> relationships between objects and their captions

Can't be done w/o Writer having a general concept for captions.
OOo only fakes to have captions - in reality it's just image+text in a
frame, and some application logic handling this as a caption under
certain circumstances.
I will ask the Writer if something changed in this area meanwhile.

> text hints for hypertext links

http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=68102

It is not so easy to extend the existing hyper link tab page w/o bigger
redesign, and we expect bigger UI changes with project "Renaissance".

HTH,
Malte.



Ming Fei Jia wrote, On 05/05/09 07:08:
> Hello All in this list:
>
> I'm checking whether all the accessibility features defined in ODF1.1
> have been implemented in OpenOffice3.1. But still have some items that I
> can not identify in OpenOffice 3.1. Could anyone in this list help for
> this? Thanks.
>
> Below is the list:
> *Feature * *Implemented in OpenOffice? * *Comments*
> Soft page break Yes Found in ODF file. But can't find GUI to enable or
> disable it.
> table header structural markup (Header columns & rows) Can't find Can't
> find UI
> Alternative text for drawing layer Can't find Can't find UI
> relationships between objects and their captions Can't find Can't find UI
> text hints for hypertext links Can't find Can't find UI
>
>       Best Regards,
>
>       Mingfei Jia(贾明飞)
>       IBM Lotus Symphony Development
>       IBM China Software Development LAB, Beijing
>       Tel: 86-10-82452493 Fax: 86-10-82452887
>      
<a href="NOTES:Ming">NOTES:Ming Fei Jia/China/IBM E-mail: [hidden email]
>       Address: No.28 Building, Zhong Guan Cun Software Park, No.8 Dong
>       Bei Wang West Road, ShangDi, Haidian District, Beijing 100193,
>       P.R.China
>

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